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The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.
I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.
Being a east central Florida native, I grew up picking Valencia's off neighborhood trees, before the terrible canker in the 90's forced the state agriculture office to basically bulldoze and burn every non-commercial orange tree in the state. IMO, the real treat is fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, not orange. Fresh grapefruit juice tastes nothing whatsoever like the stuff they sell in markets, and has a sublime flavo…
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The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.
I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.
However, insulin response is not just about total calories. Fruit juice is at the extreme edge becase of how rapidly you can consume and absorb sugar.
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The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.
I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.
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Except fruit juice has health benefits soda doesn't have. Fruit > juice > soda, and the gap between juice and soda is probably as high or higher than fruit and juice. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045306/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100330151949.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3519311/
The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.
If you drink a big glass of apple juice, you get the sugar load of eating multiple apples and get none of the fiber. It's basically like drinking soda.
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I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.
It is not abuse, it is biochemistry. Your body is extremely efficient at absorbing carbs because in nature they only appear mostly encapsulated in fiber which gates their abortion. If you absorb a large amount of sugar your body has to immediately turn it to fat with insulin or you die. This results in a situation where you have met your caloric needs for the day but you will get very hungry again even though you met…
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Except fruit juice has health benefits soda doesn't have. Fruit > juice > soda, and the gap between juice and soda is probably as high or higher than fruit and juice. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045306/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100330151949.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3519311/
The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261757046_Effect_of... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29844096/
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I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.
I have a feeling that that is because refined sugar is absorbed in a different manner than the sugar in juice. Just speculation though.
A raw orange is 31-40.
Orange juice is 46-54.
Coca-cola is 63.
I think juice may be a _LITTLE_ better than soda. I still choose to drink neither, and think I am better off for it.
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I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.
Around here, that’s mostly a cost issue. Hawaii for example has a real obesity problem relating to fruits and fruit juces. However, insulin response is not just about total calories. Fruit juice is at the extreme edge becase of how rapidly you can consume and absorb sugar.
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I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.
It is not abuse, it is biochemistry. Your body is extremely efficient at absorbing carbs because in nature they only appear mostly encapsulated in fiber which gates their abortion. If you absorb a large amount of sugar your body has to immediately turn it to fat with insulin or you die. This results in a situation where you have met your caloric needs for the day but you will get very hungry again even though you met…
I don't want to stop the anti-carb echo chamber, though, because it's helped a lot of people.