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Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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Re: Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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Juiced fruits should be considered the same as full sugar soda and self regulated as such.

Except fruit juice has health benefits soda doesn't have. Fruit > juice > soda, and the gap between juice and soda is probably as high or higher than fruit and juice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045306/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100330151949.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3519311/

Re: Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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post #15

Juiced fruits should be considered the same as full sugar soda and self regulated as such.

Except fruit juice has health benefits soda doesn't have. Fruit > juice > soda, and the gap between juice and soda is probably as high or higher than fruit and juice. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045306/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100330151949.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3519311/

the response citing research supporting an unpopular opinion gets voted down while the post expressing the popular opinion that doesn't cite evidence gets voted up.

hn voting isn't working. pretty typical

Re: Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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I'm fortunate to live by local Florida orange growers. Nothing like juice made from Valencia Oranges. The economics of Oranges and juice are fascinating. In Florida, we had a major outbreak of citrus canker that made most of the oranges grown here unsuitable for sale by USDA standards (still safe for consumption). So, off to the juice factory to be stored in those massive vats.

I'm even more fortunate: I live in Spain so I order Valencia oranges directly from producers in the actual region of Valencia. When not on season, I buy oranges from South Africa or wherever, but I can't stomach the bottled juice. I don't know what flavor pack they use here but it doesn't taste even remotely like the real thing, I'd rather make juice from the worst oranges in the supermarket than drink bottled.

Normally I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but one-upsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. The Valencia orange was developed in California; Floridian Valencia oranges are just as valid.

Re: Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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post #15

Juiced fruits should be considered the same as full sugar soda and self regulated as such.

Except fruit juice has health benefits soda doesn't have. Fruit > juice > soda, and the gap between juice and soda is probably as high or higher than fruit and juice. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045306/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100330151949.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3519311/

Those sample sizes and selection are not very good. 22 volunteers in one, and 30 people in a narrow age range in the other.

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post #15

Juiced fruits should be considered the same as full sugar soda and self regulated as such.

Except fruit juice has health benefits soda doesn't have. Fruit > juice > soda, and the gap between juice and soda is probably as high or higher than fruit and juice. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045306/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100330151949.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3519311/

The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.

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I grew up on a small orange farm in SoCal and have never heard of a Californian saying Florida oranges were better. We could get almost year round oranges locally so I’m not really sure why the author would inject that Californians would say Florida is better. We also grew navels and valencias. The navels were amazing for fresh juice if you drink it right away.

If you really want to treat yourself, go find some Ojai pixies. So delish.

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(2009), and doesn’t seem to differentiate flash-pasteurized options like Odwalla and Costco’s brand, which have a taste much closer to fresh-squeezed. I’m guessing those products omit the deoxygenation and flavor enhancement described.

Didn’t someone died drinking odwalla because of exactly this?

Re: Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except fruit juice has health benefits soda doesn't have. Fruit > juice > soda, and the gap between juice and soda is probably as high or higher than fruit and juice. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045306/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100330151949.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3519311/

The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.

I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.

Re: Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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Being a east central Florida native, I grew up picking Valencia's off neighborhood trees, before the terrible canker in the 90's forced the state agriculture office to basically bulldoze and burn every non-commercial orange tree in the state.

IMO, the real treat is fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, not orange. Fresh grapefruit juice tastes nothing whatsoever like the stuff they sell in markets, and has a sublime flavor that's both refreshing and delicious.

Re: Freshly Squeezed: The Truth About Orange Juice in Boxes

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is the sugar load. No amount of nutritional value can justify it. You can get those nutrients elsewhere without the insulin response.

I hear that a lot in the US (never elsewhere), but the only people in bad shape are those who abuse fat food and sodas. I’ve never seen anyone obese from drinking too much fruit juice alone.

I have a feeling that that is because refined sugar is absorbed in a different manner than the sugar in juice. Just speculation though.
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