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Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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Is your thought that education in particular should be available to all (i.e. the oxen represent a fundamental good), or that we shouldn't live in a world where some entities have more resources than others?

That's a false dichotomy.

I wasn't intending to imply it was one or the other, I was trying to get the parent to clarify their comment, and those were my 2 best guesses, sorry if came off like that.

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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post #100

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Is your thought that education in particular should be available to all (i.e. the oxen represent a fundamental good), or that we shouldn't live in a world where some entities have more resources than others?

On that spectrum, my thought is more towards that education should be available to all, but also that the economics we live under doesn't have a process to distribute sufficient goods widely enough such that people have strong practical independence. It's not that some entities cannot have more than others, it's that we have entire classes where their first order needs (food, shelter, clothing) aren't met despite bei…

Great response, thanks for clarifying.

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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You know, I'm happy on some level for that individual. It seems like a great stroke of fortune. On another level, it bothers me that there are such large institutions that can arbitrarily "bless" random people like a deity or something. I also can't help but look at this cynically as a largely self-interested PR grab by Apple that is not a real sacrifice on their part.

Apple and a lot of other major tech companies will pay for security exploits. This seams like a reasonable exchange. The kid gave Apple information about an exploit and Apple payed him for it.

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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> Two key U.S. House of Representatives Democrats on Tuesday asked Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook to answer questions about the bug, saying they were “deeply troubled” over how long it took Apple to address the security flaw.

honestly this just seems like a waste of time.

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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Seemed like a dubious claim, so tried to find a source and found this old article: Did the Forbes 400 Billionaires Really 'Build That'? https://www.cnbc.com/id/49167533 Trimming a lot: "United for a Fair Economy breaks down the Forbes list using a baseball analogy. It says - 35 percent of the list was born in the “batter’s box,” with a lower-middle class or middle-class background... - 22 percent of the list were bor…

I honestly expected significantly less (I figured home plate would be the largest group) but was not surprised at all to learn 3rd base was the smallest group.

Yeah, inheriting $50mm+ seems like more than enough to disincentivize risk and innovation.

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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> On another level, it bothers me that there are such large institutions that can arbitrarily "bless" random people like a deity or something. It's not all that different than in the past some regular person assisting the royalty, and being rewarded for it with some money or small title or allowance, such as being able to utilize a natural resource that's controlled by the crown. It's just a consequence of a massive…

The difference being that apple earns its own money which we have volunteerly given to them for iphones. Royal titles etc. however are from taxpayers money a bit like US aid to other countries or subsidized housing etc.

Taxpayers money like the 10s of billions apple stashed overseas until they (and others) managed to lobby for massive corportate tax breaks?

Before someone gives me the standard "don't hate the player hate the game" speech. I do hate the game. It's fundamentally broken and I think we need to do a 2.0 version.

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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post #86

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Seemed like a dubious claim, so tried to find a source and found this old article: Did the Forbes 400 Billionaires Really 'Build That'? https://www.cnbc.com/id/49167533 Trimming a lot: "United for a Fair Economy breaks down the Forbes list using a baseball analogy. It says - 35 percent of the list was born in the “batter’s box,” with a lower-middle class or middle-class background... - 22 percent of the list were bor…

I honestly expected significantly less (I figured home plate would be the largest group) but was not surprised at all to learn 3rd base was the smallest group.

Looking more in depth at their ranking though, virtually everyone from 1st base to home plate I'd consider "rich" to start (perhaps differing degrees of "employed rich", e.g. doctors/lawyers, to sheik rich).

I mean, it considers Donald Trump, whose father died with a net worth of about $300 million to start on 2nd base!!

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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Most people on US Forbes top 500 came from poverty and / or other disadvantage.

I don't think this is true. Forbes says 67% of their list is "self-made", meaning they're a 6-10 on the 10 point scale defined here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakroll/2018/10/03/the-forbe... As you can see, only a 9 or 10 should really count as coming from significant disadvantage. Mark Zuckerberg is an 8 on the scale (where 10 is most disadvantaged), and I think we can all agree he did not claw his way out of…

Yeah, I mean Mark Zuckerberg was the son of a doctor and a dentist in White Plains. We called people of those means "rich" when I was a kid.

Re: Apple to contribute to U.S. teen's education for spotting FaceTime bug

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This is a very easy problem. If you feel this strongly stop buying their products. If you don't do that clearly you don't feel strongly enough. Blaming them when they do the right thing is just going to discourage them to do so in the future

I've never bought an Apple product, but I can still be bothered by the fact that such huge corporations exist and can completely change random people's lives if they choose to.

I don't understand this thread.

The article only says: "[Apple] said it would compensate the Thompson family and make an additional gift toward 14-year-old Grant’s education."

For all we know, they got a check for $250.

How do you reconcile your statement with the fact that you, yourself, can confer life-changing benefits to all sorts of people?

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