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Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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I thought it was in the US?

The factual and evidentiary bar for treason is quite deliberately high in the US; in this case, if Trump colluded with the Russian government it would represent a violation of campaign laws (and a scandal of historic proportions!) but (Russia not being actively at war with the US) not treason qua treason.

I think that’s too complicated. The US has to be in a state of declared war against the country the traitor aides.

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Did you miss the part where Russia was actually listening and did what he said, and he had reason to know it? His "joke" was deliberate treason.

And that's why the Russians took a time machine to four months before that joke (July 2016) to hack Podesta's emails (March 2016) right?

Something similar happened with the "secret wall street speech transcripts"-not a major story, but the fact that they weren't public became a major talking point for the Trump supporters I talked to-and lo and behold they did eventually leak.

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Didn't he pay off a former pornstar tons of money to stay quiet about having sex with him? Doesn't seem implausible when he's already paid millions in hush money to keep embarassing personal info from leaking.

So then blackmailing seems to be a viable strategy! Merely pointing at the contradiction.

The issue isn't that blackmail works or doesn't work, it's that it only works on some people. Trump is an obvious and clear candidate for blackmail, given his personality. Bezos is not.

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I think he’s just implying they have more competence than the FBI in finding alleged missing emails. His comms is very non literal -and people take him literally. His whole campaign was off hand blue collar jokey remarks. Pundits understood him literally, so they failed to understand him at all. His nomination competitors also saw him in this light and ultimately failed. Mostly, J think they failed to understand his…

You can't claim he doesn't mean what he says literally after he shut down the government quite clearly over a literal wall he wants built. Or has harangued the Justice Department in public over not going after Hillary Clinton as an extension of his "Lock her up" campaign. Or his attempt to literally repeal & replace Obama Care. Regardless of whether you're pro or con on these and all of his other policy statements, i…

I think you’re mixing remarks with his stated policies. Policies they published during the campaign. Remarks are comments. That said, for politicians there is a certain fluidity in meaning. “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.”

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Imho, the best possible response to this kind of situation is to generate thousands of (deep) fakes, with different parameters, and spread them. Then, nobody will know what the real photos were. Also, with this many fakes going around, nobody will really care anymore. And mr. Bezos certainly has the resources to get a team of CGI artists to work on something like this.

I get the sense that his response is more about principle and not getting pushed around by some sleazeball hack posing as a journalist than it is about avoiding personal embarrassment. Bezos is secure in his professional life. Whether or not more pictures come out have little bearing on the outcome of his divorce. The biggest concern here is the reaction of his family and friends. The ones closest to him would probably know about the extortion attempt anyway. This is a guy who is worth $140B. That’s not normal and has likely made relationships difficult for many years. The people he truly cares about, the ones who are close, have already gotten past the thing that makes him completely different from everyone else in the world. Why would they care about something like sexting and nude pics that make him the same as most people in the world? They don’t care. As for everyone else not close to him, I’m sure he learned long ago how to tune out the noise.

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It really puts this tweet from POTUS last month in a crazy new context: "So sorry to hear the news about Jeff Bozo being taken down by a competitor whose reporting, I understand, is far more accurate than the reporting in his lobbyist newspaper, the Amazon Washington Post. Hopefully the paper will soon be placed in better & more responsible hands!" https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/10846274519830732... Stran…

The only thing strange about it is how much easier it is to learn about these conspiracies now that we have the Internet. People are acting all shocked like this is a new state of affairs. It's not. We are just far more empowered now to actually learn about these things.

Empowered to learn maybe, but no change in power to act it feels like.

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If the CEO and Founder of AWS can be easily hacked by Saudis then what does that mean for the rest of silicon valley in general and 99% of YC funded startups who rely on AWS?

This is not a productive line of reasoning, and mostly acts as a red herring in this entire discussion. The security of AWS has absolutely nothing to do with the security of the CEO of Amazon, even if AWS is a product of Amazon. You can sell the best basketballs and be a terrible basketball player at the same time.

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Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Exactly - I'm trying to imagine being in his place and being open about all of this...and it's HARD. It's easy for me to want HIM to do it, but as much as I think being disgustingly wealthy would be great...I'm sure I'd still be really nervous about pressing that button. And it's easy for us to say "Well I wouldn't be in that place to begin with", but as I much as I not be in this EXACT place, most of us have made mi…

> most of us have made mistakes that we deeply regret and fear getting out Agreed, probably Jeff Bezos has made those mistakes as well. However I fail to see any mistakes of his threatened to be revealed.

Jeff was using company money and contracts to keep his mistress happy. The pictures keep that in the spotlight.

And despite the letter, does anyone think he isn’t spending a big chunk of time on this?

Most Fortune 500 CEOs would be gone or forced into retirement.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Whatever you think about Jeff, this is the correct way to handle such things. We should all have the same character in such a situation (despite how the situation arose; in this case via an affair). Jeff has MANY other issues of moral disfortitude (we all do to some degree, though not at these scales). However, this particular event is to be applauded and emulated.

It's worth noting that Jeff Bezos has a lot to gain from publishing these threats. While publishing the descriptions of the photographs may sting, publishing the photos themselves would hurt a lot more. Now that he's made the accusations public, AMI could not plausibly publish the actual photos.

You are giving too much credit to dirtbags. These photos will be routed to persons that are 45th degree from him and released aka leaked for free. Don't underestimate the power of revenge :|

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It seems like a lot of people are not reading between the lines of this post. Bezos apparently believes that he was hacked by either the US or Saudi government and that now one or both of those governments are using the National Enquirer as an attack dog against him. That accusation is much bigger than any other piece of this story. EDIT: Here [1] is a reporter from the Washington Post backing that up. The Bezos' cam…

I don't think politically motivated is in any way the same thing as state-sponsored attack. That's quite a leap.

It's a non-falsifiable claim, unless they actually catch and prove whomever did it. If he can get an intel agency (Amazon customers by the way) to say they are reasonably sure it was [insert hostile government], then it becomes gospel and an excuse to declare war or shake down US politicians retroactively for associating with that entity. We saw it happen with Russia in 2016.
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