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Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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Populist clickbait headline is clickbait. I'm sure Netflix paid tons in employer contributions to employee income taxes, social security taxes, etc. They probably paid a bunch in sales taxes where they made purchases. Property taxes for data centers, office buildings, etc. So there are many more taxes that everyone pays beyond the income tax. As others have pointed out, the tax code is immensely complex, but you prob…

I'm sure Netflix paid tons in employer contributions to employee income taxes, social security taxes, etc. This situation should not be viewed as Netflix paying tax. An employee's benefits, pay, time off, etc. are all part of the compensation of an employee. If Netflix did not pay this on behalf of the employee then the employee would have to pay it. For instance, for contractors they (the contractor) pay the full FI…

You and companies do pay tax on expenses typically as some type of indirect tax (global defn, not the US defn) such as VAT, GST , excise , import/export duties etc.

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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If everyone who is an employee of the company must pay taxes on their income anyways, then what's the point of taxing companies themselves - so they can be taxed for the company income on top of the taxes already paid on operating costs on top of more taxes for employee salary? What rationale is there besides wanting to give the government more revenue? Shareholders might have gained a lot, but whatever they make on their investment gets taxed anyway, so what's the big deal?

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> The answer is to outlaw lobbyists, it would fix a lot of problems. That, and enact term limits for Congress. That will fix even more. When you think there are simple answers to big problems it's generally because you don't actually understand the problem. How would you outlaw lobbyists? Setting aside the fact that it would be unconstitutional, do you think it should be illegal for you to air your grievances to elec…

> unconstitutional God forbid we think outside the realm of what the Founding Fathers wrote down. > fly directly in the face of democracy Except the U.S. has long been classified as a flawed democracy. The problems you list can "simply" be solved with a comission akin to the FTC. A small business can complain to said comission which would solve the matter.

The US isn't a "flawed democracy", it's intentionally not a democracy.

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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post #137

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Not siding one way or the other, that will definitely limit the amount of expertise that comes with a Congressman/Congresswoman. Think about it, it takes at least six months for us to learn our jobs, they have to learn about hundreds of things ongoing in the government before they can make informed decisions. You then even rely more on lobbyists (or "experts") who at least generally know what they are talking about.…

Lobbyist being experts is something I've never heard before. They are salesmen, do you want to get your nutrient information from a McDonald's commercial? It may save you time but isn't really helpful.

> Lobbyist being experts is something I've never heard before.

Lobbyists often are, and, whether or not they themselves are, are almost invariably supported by, domain experts.

> They are salesmen

Yeah, but they are salesmen who do the public policy equivalent of technical sales, and it's a field where selectivity is high because you are selling to a very small number of very high value customers.

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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Netflix hasn't, to my knowledge, even filed their 2018 annual yet (or their Q4 2018), so I'm not sure what they're even basing their numbers on. But they admit elsewhere that Netflix paid taxes most of the preceding years, averaging out around 13.5%. In the end their tax lawyers do exactly what tax lawyers do, and unless they're breaking the law so be it. As an aside, it's rich that it's always Americans complaining…

> In any case, corporate tax rates are often much ado about nothing because in the end that money ends up in various other tax brackets. It becomes a capital gain, or a dividend, or some other form that often gets taxed at the personal level. Clearly corporate taxes are charged for a reason and presumably the additional revenue would be of benefit. However it seems to me that in our outrage we lose sight of the fact…

Trickle down economics eh? When did that ever work?

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not siding one way or the other, that will definitely limit the amount of expertise that comes with a Congressman/Congresswoman. Think about it, it takes at least six months for us to learn our jobs, they have to learn about hundreds of things ongoing in the government before they can make informed decisions. You then even rely more on lobbyists (or "experts") who at least generally know what they are talking about.…

Lobbyist being experts is something I've never heard before. They are salesmen, do you want to get your nutrient information from a McDonald's commercial? It may save you time but isn't really helpful.

The EFF, trade unions, the aclu, the southern poverty law center, all of these are experts and all of them lobby policymakers.

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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> What is the common person, or collection of persons, supposed to do when they are against that kind of force? Vote. All sorts of interests lobby, all the time. These include consumer-focused interest groups, as well as corporations. But, at the end of the day, politicians gain (and keep) office based on the votes of their constituents. These politicians are (generally) not going to vote on bills that they think mig…

I've voted in every election I since I turned 18 and nothing seems to have been done about this and many other things. But issues that megacorps care about happen right away. Voting isn't a real solution to unchecked corporate lobbying.

> I've voted in every election I since I turned 18 and nothing seems to have been done about this and many other things.

It is also possible that the majority doesn't feel (read: vote) the same way about these issues as you. Would that mean that the system is flawed?

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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The answer is to outlaw lobbyists, it would fix a lot of problems. That, and enact term limits for Congress. That will fix even more.

Not siding one way or the other, that will definitely limit the amount of expertise that comes with a Congressman/Congresswoman. Think about it, it takes at least six months for us to learn our jobs, they have to learn about hundreds of things ongoing in the government before they can make informed decisions. You then even rely more on lobbyists (or "experts") who at least generally know what they are talking about.…

I would argue that congresspeople are not experts in general in most (all in some cases?) domains, and make generally totally uninformed decisions that are designed to pander to a political base.

And lobbyists aren't experts either, they're simply paid to bribe people to get a result.

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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> What is the common person, or collection of persons, supposed to do when they are against that kind of force? Vote. All sorts of interests lobby, all the time. These include consumer-focused interest groups, as well as corporations. But, at the end of the day, politicians gain (and keep) office based on the votes of their constituents. These politicians are (generally) not going to vote on bills that they think mig…

Won’t matter. ‘They’ donate to both sides of the isle. Lessig has a good video that breaks a lot of this process down. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PJy8vTu66tE

Wow, interesting video. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in Income Taxes

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post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The answer is to outlaw lobbyists, it would fix a lot of problems. That, and enact term limits for Congress. That will fix even more. When you think there are simple answers to big problems it's generally because you don't actually understand the problem. How would you outlaw lobbyists? Setting aside the fact that it would be unconstitutional, do you think it should be illegal for you to air your grievances to elec…

>it should be illegal for you to air your grievances to elected officials? Doing it for money - yes, that should be illegal.

You mean acting as a paid representative on someone else's behalf to stand before a government official? Isn't that what lawyers do?
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