Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by throwaway1239Mx » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:07 PM UTC

enkiv2 wrote: post #7

Maybe the software industry will discover constraint programming the way that it discovered functional programming over the past decade. If it did, that would almost immediately increase programmer productivity for non-performance-critical tasks (since the compiler could supply the implementation), while making formal methods more easily applicable to production code & supplying the prerequisites for more clever auto…

Any suggestions for sources on what was obvious prior to 1980? Happy to spend hours reading... but hours searching + reading adds up rapidly in a time-scarce environment.

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by olavgg » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:07 PM UTC

enkiv2 wrote: post #7

Maybe the software industry will discover constraint programming the way that it discovered functional programming over the past decade. If it did, that would almost immediately increase programmer productivity for non-performance-critical tasks (since the compiler could supply the implementation), while making formal methods more easily applicable to production code & supplying the prerequisites for more clever auto…

An infinite loop of software trends :-)

To answer parent, I actually think better understanding of personality types and how manage people better will come with far better productivity.

The jungle of technology alternatives of how to solve business problems, causes a lot of unnecessary fights. It doesn't matter if you choose React, Angular or Vanilla JS. If your team is fighting each other, your team is not productive.

With this in mind, don't hire people that always agree with you, you always need someone to challenge you.

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by huffmsa » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:08 PM UTC

dhruvmittal wrote: post #4

- Context-aware IDEs with significantly more powerful versions of today's intellisense tools. - Compilers with even more powerful implicit behavior- forget automatically creating Get() and Set(), we'll be creating entire inheritance structures with one function definition.

Seconded and I'd even like to extend it to say that we'll be moving closer to automatically written code via machine learning.

So we'll see a shift away from "developer specific boilerplate" in the same way libraries have abstracted a lot of basic setup boilerplate.

You'll say "initialize a web service with these models" and the IDE will build out the majority of the project.

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by zitterbewegung » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:09 PM UTC

40 hour max work weeks enforced and 4 day work weeks. Shifts for people that need to monitor ops.

Offices for everyone on staff that like to work in a quiet place and pubic areas for people who like to work in those places .

Also, the minimization of time spent in meetings .

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by xenihn » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:09 PM UTC

Genetically engineered Chinese super-programmers who don't need to sleep and don't feel pain.

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by dacracot » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:09 PM UTC

The cycle repeats over and over. Monolith becomes unmanageable and get chopped into loosely coupled, functionally independent replaceables: mainframes to containers, application servers to micro services, etc. Drag and drop coding hits the wall and gets overrun by old languages: 4GL to C++/Java, HyperCard to Objective C, etc. The monoliths are currently numerous in the single page application realm, choose your framework. Eventually these will succumb to smaller more flexible and purposeful components.

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by pritambarhate » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

bayesian_horse wrote: post #3

sidcool wrote: post #2

AI powered intellisense and code generation.

I will probably try out "Kite" soon.

"Kite" seemed to be a really cool tech, but I read about the dark patterns[1] used by them here on HackerNews and never gave them a try and most likely will not do it anytime soon.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14836653

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by agentultra » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

The cost of using and teaching formal methods will continue to come down and program synthesis will become the practical means of automating a lot of lower-level code.

Re: Ask HN: What big programming productivity gains you see happening in 5-10 yrs?

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Post by JustSomeNobody » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

> Considering this background, what do you think will be a breakthrough innovation in programming which will enable programmers to deliver ambitious web/mobile apps at a very high speed.

Quality, Speed, Price. Pick two.

What is the driving force to "...deliver ... at a very high speed?" It's easy to assume that from the list above quality would be the one to suffer. Doesn't anyone here on HN ever get tired of being everyone's beta bitch?

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Post by andrew_ » Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 5:11 PM UTC

colordrops wrote: post #9

WebAssembly as the prevailing cross-platform VM and used as the main distribution mechanism for most applications.

This would really be fascinating to witness. I hadn't considered that anything would knock the JVM off of it's throne, but that has potential to happen.