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Huawei Sting Offers Rare Glimpse of the U.S. Targeting a Chinese Giant

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Re: Huawei Sting Offers Rare Glimpse of the U.S. Targeting a Chinese Giant

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> The FBI asked them to travel to Las Vegas and conduct a meeting with Huawei representatives at last month’s Consumer Electronics Show. Shurboff was outfitted with surveillance devices and recorded the conversation while a Bloomberg Businessweek reporter watched from safe distance. Is this common practice for criminal investigations?

Seems like a pretty typical sting operation, except for the reporter.

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#22

Super long read only to find out at the end, it might be nothing at all.

Yep, this isn't the first story in recent memory from Bloomberg that smells like much ado about NOTHING. What's going on with them?

Well Bloomberg reporters get bonuses based on how much the their stories move the market. Huawei is traded on the Shanghai Exchange so the incentives for the reporter are to make the stock tank (or pop, I guess).

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"They recall the gemologist saying he’d analyzed the diamond glass sample and concluded that Huawei had blasted it with a 100-kilowatt laser, powerful enough to be used as a weapon." What? how can you determine that from a piece of broke glass?

It's a bit of a tangent, but there's an entire field of study called "fractography" which is all about doing things exactly like that.

Further tangent: "a piece of broke glass" can exhibit interesting morphology... "mirror", "mist", and "hackle" are distinctive signatures of different fracture conditions.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, this isn't the first story in recent memory from Bloomberg that smells like much ado about NOTHING. What's going on with them?

Well Bloomberg reporters get bonuses based on how much the their stories move the market. Huawei is traded on the Shanghai Exchange so the incentives for the reporter are to make the stock tank (or pop, I guess).

And someone could make profit. Hmm it smells like crime

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This descriptions does not sound like it's about something that is "virtually unbreakable" : "The sample looked like an ordinary piece of glass, 4 inches square and transparent on both sides. It’d been packed like the precious specimen its inventor, Adam Khan, believed it to be—placed on wax paper, nestled in a tray lined with silicon gel, enclosed in a plastic case, surrounded by air bags, sealed in a cardboard box—…

Also according to the agreement Huawei was not supposed to "break" it. I am not sure how they are supposed to evaluate it without scratching at it.

Scratching it is what was expected of the test since that's the reason you'd want to use diamond, to resist scratching.

Breaking it into a number of a pieces with a laser is beyond the scope of testing its ability to resist scratches.

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, this isn't the first story in recent memory from Bloomberg that smells like much ado about NOTHING. What's going on with them?

Well Bloomberg reporters get bonuses based on how much the their stories move the market. Huawei is traded on the Shanghai Exchange so the incentives for the reporter are to make the stock tank (or pop, I guess).

Except Huawei is not traded publicly.

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well Bloomberg reporters get bonuses based on how much the their stories move the market. Huawei is traded on the Shanghai Exchange so the incentives for the reporter are to make the stock tank (or pop, I guess).

Except Huawei is not traded publicly.

Yeah my bad I guess Huawei culture Co LTD is something else.

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#28

Is there anything that Huawei does that Western companies don't do, such as trying to steal their competitors secrets? https://www.digitaltrends.com/business/google-sues-uber-over... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43010348 For any older person this is no news. Didn't we something like this with Hitachi in the 80s? Of course the authorities try to ban purchases from foreign companies that steal American company…

My instinct is anything our government screams at another country about, security-wise, is simply projecting the fear that everyone else is going to do the exact same thing our government is doing. Huawei might have back doors for the Chinese govt.? Oh, you mean like the FBI, NSA, and CIA have tried to (or maybe successfully) force(d) Apple, Microsoft, Facebook and Google to do?

Re: Huawei Sting Offers Rare Glimpse of the U.S. Targeting a Chinese Giant

#29
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, this isn't the first story in recent memory from Bloomberg that smells like much ado about NOTHING. What's going on with them?

Well Bloomberg reporters get bonuses based on how much the their stories move the market. Huawei is traded on the Shanghai Exchange so the incentives for the reporter are to make the stock tank (or pop, I guess).

> Well Bloomberg reporters get bonuses based on how much the their stories move the market.

Do you have any evidence of this?

Re: Huawei Sting Offers Rare Glimpse of the U.S. Targeting a Chinese Giant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, this isn't the first story in recent memory from Bloomberg that smells like much ado about NOTHING. What's going on with them?

Perhaps the agenda is just negative PR on Huawei.

Perhaps US police have shoved too many of these cases under the rug and now they need a scape goat because it is becoming too obvious that US companies cannot bribe, influence, or demand justice from their own government when the opposition is "businesses" with the backing and protection of China.
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