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Huawei Sting Offers Rare Glimpse of the U.S. Targeting a Chinese Giant

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Post by hevi_jos »

vincnetas wrote: post #5

This descriptions does not sound like it's about something that is "virtually unbreakable" : "The sample looked like an ordinary piece of glass, 4 inches square and transparent on both sides. It’d been packed like the precious specimen its inventor, Adam Khan, believed it to be—placed on wax paper, nestled in a tray lined with silicon gel, enclosed in a plastic case, surrounded by air bags, sealed in a cardboard box—…

Well, diamond is very easy to break, because being hard also means it is very fragile. In other words, it is very easy for a fracture to propagate.

We actually broke low quality diamonds with a hammer. They are also very easy to burn.

What is very hard is scratching diamond. If you combine the properties of different materials like diamond on the surface, and something that absorbs impacts inside it could be a wonderful material.

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Post by vfclists »

Is there anything that Huawei does that Western companies don't do, such as trying to steal their competitors secrets?

https://www.digitaltrends.com/business/google-sues-uber-over...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43010348

For any older person this is no news. Didn't we something like this with Hitachi in the 80s?

Of course the authorities try to ban purchases from foreign companies that steal American company's secrets, but they don't apply the same rule to American companies that steal other American companies secrets.

They also don't seem so eager to launch sting operations against American companies who aim to steal other American companies secrets.

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Post by eulalila »

sharpneli wrote: post #8
sschueller wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also according to the agreement Huawei was not supposed to "break" it. I am not sure how they are supposed to evaluate it without scratching at it.

This one stood out to me too. What benefit it even is to get a sample of protective glass if you are not allowed to test it? ”Here. Look at it. Trust us that it’s super resistant to scratches”.

They literally describe Huawei sending a picture to Akhan of a deep scratch in the sample, proving they’re testing it properly.

Read the fucking articles people:

The first sign of trouble came two months later, in May, when Huawei missed the deadline to return the sample. Shurboff says his emails to Han requesting its immediate return were ignored. The following month, Han wrote that Huawei had been performing “standard” tests on the sample and included a photo showing a big scratch on its surface. Finally, a package from Huawei showed up at Gurnee on Aug. 2.

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Post by clort »

sschueller wrote: post #4

"They recall the gemologist saying he’d analyzed the diamond glass sample and concluded that Huawei had blasted it with a 100-kilowatt laser, powerful enough to be used as a weapon." What? how can you determine that from a piece of broke glass?

the gemologist was

> an FBI expert in forensic gemology

and I can only presume they know what kind of power is required to melt diamond, and how it looks afterwards..

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Post by crispyambulance »

yeahitslikethat wrote: post #2

Super long read only to find out at the end, it might be nothing at all.

Yep, this isn't the first story in recent memory from Bloomberg that smells like much ado about NOTHING. What's going on with them?

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Post by crispyambulance »

clort wrote: post #14
sschueller wrote: post #4

"They recall the gemologist saying he’d analyzed the diamond glass sample and concluded that Huawei had blasted it with a 100-kilowatt laser, powerful enough to be used as a weapon." What? how can you determine that from a piece of broke glass?

the gemologist was > an FBI expert in forensic gemology and I can only presume they know what kind of power is required to melt diamond, and how it looks afterwards..

"melt" is really the wrong verb. It don't even think one can melt diamond. The correct verb would be "ablate".

If one delivers enough energy to a material in a small-enough space (eg with short-pulse from a focused laser), the material "vaporizes" down to a certain depth and the process starts all over again at the bottom of the void that was ablated away. You can drill through any film this way.

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Post by ShorsHammer »

> The FBI asked them to travel to Las Vegas and conduct a meeting with Huawei representatives at last month’s Consumer Electronics Show. Shurboff was outfitted with surveillance devices and recorded the conversation while a Bloomberg Businessweek reporter watched from safe distance.

Is this common practice for criminal investigations?

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Post by e40 »

crispyambulance wrote: post #15
yeahitslikethat wrote: post #2

Super long read only to find out at the end, it might be nothing at all.

Yep, this isn't the first story in recent memory from Bloomberg that smells like much ado about NOTHING. What's going on with them?

Perhaps the agenda is just negative PR on Huawei.
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