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Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Post by konart » Fri, Feb 01, 2019, 5:01 PM UTC

Markoff wrote: post #93

konart wrote: post #27

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>do they not have cafes where strangers can socialize over a cheap cup of coffee or tea? Surely they have. But you have to order something and there is a good change you won't meet anyone of your age. If you come to a free clinic - you don't pay anything and you are immediately surrounded by people of your age (if we are talking about eldery as in this case).

this is resolved in China in IKEA, coffee is cheap or even free and they have nice environment to hang out OTOH even regular younger Chinese use IKEA showrooms literally as their living rooms, I can see appeal especially in hot weather

Well, you can find a place to spend your time without paying anything in many places.

In Russia we have "social welfare centers" where they provide elderly with different sorts of entertainment. (well, entertainment maybe not the best word. This like dance evenings).

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Post by moltar » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 2:58 PM UTC

peteretep wrote: post #12

moltar wrote: post #5

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I kinda agree but it also depends on the jail. I imagine Japanese jails are nice, esp for small crimes. I’ve seen Nordik jails in a documentary and I’d totally pick that over many other places to live, if I was not able to afford living.

> I imagine Japanese jails are nice, esp for small crimes I did some Googling of this around the time we were in Lanta, and they sounded terrible

Stalker ...

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Post by toomuchtodo » Sun, Feb 03, 2019, 4:28 AM UTC

gruez wrote: post #84

onetimemanytime wrote: post #41

Retirement planning on $1200 SS: Go to jail for half of the time, plead guilty so no lawyer expenses, and when out, live on $2400 :) Sad way, but it's a way of doing it. Can't blame the newer generation as they can barely manage for themselves. Add mental illness that starts in a lot of older people and professional care is needed.

that doesn't work in the US because you'll get charged court/jail fees that will wipe away any money you saved.

Only in certain circumstances can Social Security benefits be garnished.

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Post by Annatar » Sun, Feb 03, 2019, 10:25 AM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #33

Annatar wrote: post #15

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From the article it looks like a much better and cheaper solution is to build retirement homes for the elderly. Is it feasible to write to one's political representative in Japan?

> Is it feasible to write to one's political representative in Japan? Because that ever achieved anything in the US, except letting off steam?

Japan is decidedly not the United States. In some European countries like Germany writing to one's representative damn works, and works well; in Switzerland the situation is even better, the people decide directly and as the consequence the government is afraid of the people, which is as it should be.

Looking at everything through the lens of how things are in the United States is dimwitted, to put it very considerately and politely.

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Post by konart » Mon, Feb 04, 2019, 8:26 PM UTC

ndnxhs wrote: post #36

konart wrote: post #25

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Because stealing a car and stealing a pen - is the same thing. A pen given to me by my father 20 years ago can be of a bigger value for me than a fucking Porsche.

I don't think personal value counts in the legal system otherwise people would claim everything was a priceless family item.

That's not my point.

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Post by konart » Mon, Feb 04, 2019, 8:28 PM UTC

benj111 wrote: post #44

konart wrote: post #25

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Because stealing a car and stealing a pen - is the same thing. A pen given to me by my father 20 years ago can be of a bigger value for me than a fucking Porsche.

But the things discussed were from a shop, and have prices attached. And they aren't the same thing, you yourself admit that, to you the pen is more valuable than the car.

>And they aren't the same thing, you yourself admit that, to you the pen is more valuable than the car.

My point is that theft should be followed by a fierce punishment. Regardless of the market price.