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Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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When I lived in Japan back in the 80s, doctor visits were basically free. They took all day though, partially because the elderly would go to the doctor to interact with other people, rather than for a real medical need, thus clogging up the system.

This seems so strange to me, do they not have cafes where strangers can socialize over a cheap cup of coffee or tea?

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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So can anyone shed any light on why they're jailing people for such low value items?

Because stealing a car and stealing a pen - is the same thing. A pen given to me by my father 20 years ago can be of a bigger value for me than a fucking Porsche.

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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In other news. It is cheaper to stay on a cruise ship than in a nursing home. https://www.reshareworthy.com/old-lady-alone-on-a-cruise-shi...

She seems self-sufficient enough to not need a nursing home in the first place. Nursing homes aren't hotels. Does the cruise ship crew help her to shower? Get dressed? Brush her teeth? Are they able to deal with Alzheimer patients? I doubt they do.

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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When I lived in Japan back in the 80s, doctor visits were basically free. They took all day though, partially because the elderly would go to the doctor to interact with other people, rather than for a real medical need, thus clogging up the system.

This seems so strange to me, do they not have cafes where strangers can socialize over a cheap cup of coffee or tea?

>do they not have cafes where strangers can socialize over a cheap cup of coffee or tea?

Surely they have. But you have to order something and there is a good change you won't meet anyone of your age. If you come to a free clinic - you don't pay anything and you are immediately surrounded by people of your age (if we are talking about eldery as in this case).

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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In other news. It is cheaper to stay on a cruise ship than in a nursing home. https://www.reshareworthy.com/old-lady-alone-on-a-cruise-shi...

Seems like the lady in that story was telling a joke, as the services offered by a cruise ship wouldn't be comparable to an assisted-living facility, let alone a nursing home.

Not to ruin the joke, just, if she merely needed food delivered and chores done with someone to take her to the doctor, she could live in a normal residence and hire that help for much less. Assisted-living facilities would provide a step up, then nursing homes provide support a level beyond that.

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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In other news. It is cheaper to stay on a cruise ship than in a nursing home. https://www.reshareworthy.com/old-lady-alone-on-a-cruise-shi...

That sounds like a wonderful environment for a person living with declining immunity.

http://fortune.com/2019/01/12/500-sick-on-cruise-ship-oasis-...

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm

Re: Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems so strange to me, do they not have cafes where strangers can socialize over a cheap cup of coffee or tea?

>do they not have cafes where strangers can socialize over a cheap cup of coffee or tea? Surely they have. But you have to order something and there is a good change you won't meet anyone of your age. If you come to a free clinic - you don't pay anything and you are immediately surrounded by people of your age (if we are talking about eldery as in this case).

Shared suffering is also a good conversation starter for the elderly. Some waiting rooms turn into a kind of Four Yorkshiremen sketch quickly.

And yes, that's not good. The whole world hasn't quite come to terms yet with situation that we've got a whole lot of old people, neither with the healthy ones, nor the infirm ones. Given the sheer amount of both, there should be way more opportunities and organizations for them (not just the church and political parties).

But that's not a sexy topic for startup bros and the VCs that love them.

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