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Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by brute »

bad_user wrote: post #43

What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

An eye-opening moment for me was when the game 'Bulletstorm' released in 2011. It was heavily criticized when it launched (and even before) but for vastly different reasons.

Germany had a HUGE problem with the violence (even the 18+ version has blood and dismemberment removed), US criticized the sexuality (two achievements were called 'topless' and 'gang bang'), and in Japan it was about the promotion of drugs (you could get drunk to perform extra skill shots) and to a lesser extent about the violence.

So every cultural region has its own ideas of what their children need to be shielded from (and what to blame social misconduct on). But they all fail to realize that the children of the others, who get exposed to the 'bad stuff', still turn out fine by some miracle.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by johnny22 »

sgt101 wrote: post #55

The real "original sin" of the free internet is the curation of the experience of using neutral information systems to drive engagement and skew users decisions away from their own interest towards the commercial interest of the web sites. Routine deception and manipulation mean that there are no clear lines or defensible moats of freedom. There is no rule of law or communal standard of fairness on the internet. This…

you should meet some real life sex workers

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by jacobush »

brute wrote: post #111
bad_user wrote: post #43

What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

An eye-opening moment for me was when the game 'Bulletstorm' released in 2011. It was heavily criticized when it launched (and even before) but for vastly different reasons. Germany had a HUGE problem with the violence (even the 18+ version has blood and dismemberment removed), US criticized the sexuality (two achievements were called 'topless' and 'gang bang'), and in Japan it was about the promotion of drugs (you c…

Fail to be convinced, rather?

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by iliketosleep »

sgt101 wrote: post #55

The real "original sin" of the free internet is the curation of the experience of using neutral information systems to drive engagement and skew users decisions away from their own interest towards the commercial interest of the web sites. Routine deception and manipulation mean that there are no clear lines or defensible moats of freedom. There is no rule of law or communal standard of fairness on the internet. This…

One could also argue that prostitutes are routinely destroyed by the legal system. Prostitution always has and always will exist in one form or another regardless of law. Making it illegal only forces it underground, causing more harm and creating more opportunity for organized crime.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by xfitm3 »

stinos wrote: post #66

There's nude art subreddits, no? And Vimeo has a bunch of channels featuring nudity on stage, nude art performances etc. It's video though, and maybe not super popular on a global scale, but just mentioning this to counter the 'all is lost' feeling the article sometimes gave me while reading through it. For the rest though I wholeheartedly agree: the input (keyboard) and in between (servers) and output (search result…

Reddit used to be a lot more open. I can't help but think that since a few years ago there are more rules than ever, more mods, and more pressure to fit into an echo chamber of who the average redditor should be.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by jacobush »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #98
hellofunk wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The USA is just way more religious overall; - Pilgrims were the most radical protestant Christians, they were kicked out of Europe and then spread their social norms in the USA, in a very early moment of the development of American culture. Exactly, and most Americans are quite unaware of the brutal history and behaviors of the Pilgrims. They celebrate Pilgrims at Thanksgiving and teach kids only about the ships th…

The salem witch-hunts are taught but agree on the back burner.

Not only on the back burner, but as some kind of weird, separate thing. No one is connecting the dots to the puritans.

History is taught like the news is reported, disconnected incidents. I am reminded of the children in Mad Max reciting how they crashed on their airplane.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by ndnxhs »

unimpressive wrote: post #8
lazyjones wrote: post #3

YMMV... For me, the last straw was having to click away 2-3 banners that cover the content on every website and then often being slapped in the face with a subscription box. This is simply conditioning me to expect disappointment and hence to stop clicking on links. Even on HN I find myself clicking straight on the comment links to get an idea of what the link is about.

My friend wrote a browser plugin that removes sticky web elements like subscription boxes on pages (Chrome only, for now). https://git.sr.ht/~achmizs/AlwaysKillSticky.git Sad that we have to resort to this sort of thing, but... p.s: He would probably be happy to accept a patch which makes it compatible with Firefox.

Won't that kill nav bars?

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by perilunar »

sgt101 wrote: post #55

The real "original sin" of the free internet is the curation of the experience of using neutral information systems to drive engagement and skew users decisions away from their own interest towards the commercial interest of the web sites. Routine deception and manipulation mean that there are no clear lines or defensible moats of freedom. There is no rule of law or communal standard of fairness on the internet. This…

> my perception is that the vast majority of sex workers are not doing it because of free choice, but rather because of exploitation and pressure.

Your perception would be wrong. The vast majority of sex workers are doing it for the money, same as any job.

> The illegality of prostitution

Prostitution is not illegal in many parts of the world, and even decriminalised is some parts.

> I hear of no stories where people have found happy and fulfilled lives as prostitutes.

That's because you aren't listening. There's plenty of sex workers who blog or who are on twitter that you can ask. Just follow some and see.

> prostitutes are routinely destroyed by their work.

The biggest risk to sex workers in parts of the world where it is illegal is rape and murder by law enforcement.

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