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Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Since I heard about Tumblrs new policy a week before it was implemented, I've been hard at work building Libr ( https://librapp.com ) to replace it. A large amount of art that isn't porn, but that qualifies as "adult content" under the new policy has been all but purged from the internet. It's impossible to ban adult content in a cost effective way without also banning a large amount of legitimate art. Libr is about…

Are you going to federate with other content-sharing app via ActivityPub? Several other Tumblr alternatives have popped up as Fediverse instances and you might want them to interoperate with your project.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

I don't understand why the corporate monoliths refuse to slap their ads on porno. Porno has got to be the most popular kind of content on the internet. Why cant my porno be brought to me in part by pepsi cola?

I think the general reason is that Pepsi cola doesn't want their ads showing up in that setting. Most advertisers shy away from monetizing adult content.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

That's the real story here - payment processors and the US gov are policing morality by making it impossible to run a for-profit NSFW business: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/payment-processors-are... Tumblr and similar sites are just a casualty of monopolistic payment processors doing the bidding of the government. IMO - as long as what you're doing is legal you should be able to make money for it. Anything l…

oh come on. tumbler is aiming for sweet sweet sweet branding advertising dollars, which has nothing to do with payment processors.

they are looking for a hefty 1-10-100M transaction from BMW, P&G or Unilever. payment processors are not in this business at all.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Now Tumblr is a sex-free haven for white nationalists and Nazis. Is the author basing this on anything other than checking to see if white nationalists and Nazis are simply using the site as some sort of electronic forward operating base such that it's worth calling Tumblr a "haven" for these groups? Asked a better way: if you go looking for group x on just about any website, isn't it fair to say you're probably goin…

Many people think nazis are objectively much less acceptable than porn. Particularly the type of softcore "artsy" porn one would expect to find on Tumblr before the crackdown.

There was some pretty debauched stuff on Tumblr before the crackdown. There is some pretty cartoonish, trollish, and non-serious Nazi stuff out there.

This line of argument goes in circles.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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YMMV... For me, the last straw was having to click away 2-3 banners that cover the content on every website and then often being slapped in the face with a subscription box. This is simply conditioning me to expect disappointment and hence to stop clicking on links. Even on HN I find myself clicking straight on the comment links to get an idea of what the link is about.

I wish every link could get a score based on how shitty the things it links to are, in terms of banners and paywalls. I need to know way in advance about toxic sites in a way that links that lead there get docked points for linking to toxic places, PageRank style.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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The problem is that platforms and web hosting services are engaging in censorship too. The article gives Cloudflare as example. Hosting porn content, even if it is art, can get very expensive because most services have an explicit no porn policy. Also without Google Search and without presence on a big social network, you’re essentially invisible. The situation for mobile apps is even worse, as Apple doesn’t allow po…

I think you bring up some very good points and frankly, it's quite depressing. A decade or two from now the internet will be exactly like cable TV.

It's always like that. TV and radio were quirky in the early days too, but as soon as you go mass market it changes. It's not the medium, it's the people on it. Time to keep moving and get away from the mainstream.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

Tumblr exists since February 2007; they lived, grew and prospered with erotica (and much more!) for 10 years. Let's stop telling ourselves that you can monetize with erotica. It's just American Puritanism, and yes, it's breaking the internet.

>they lived, grew and prospered with erotica (and much more!) for 10 years.

Were they profitable during this period or were they sucking the VC tit all the time?

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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The problem is that it's not just the sites that don't get funding, but it's hosting providers and pretty much the entire chain of services that you use that won't do business with you if there's sexual content involved.

Isn't it how the real world works? Have you ever seen BMW or P&G ad in a hardcore porn magazine you have recenty bought? Internet is only different bc VC bucks were willing to tolerate porn for some time, like in tumblr case. Time is up, so everyone has to play by society rules now.

The problem isn't the BMW ad. It's more about BMW refusing to sell me a car because I'm open about porn.
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