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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ghostly_s »

h1d wrote: post #353
tarabanga wrote: post #346

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> Passwords managed by bitwarden Is there a specific reason you don't use Firefox' password manager? (Read: Do I have reason to migrate out of it?)

It's obvious browser password managers are broken in a way it never locks its database, so anyone with physical access can log in to all the site you have passwords for, which also means changing password is easy as logging into your gmail also requires no knowledge. To this day I can't believe none of the browsers actually try to fix this by at least locking the password database after a certain period like any pass…

You can protect your password DB with a master password on Firefox, though it only will be 'locked' when you close the program. AFAIK this is not too dissimilar from the model for most password managers.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by qu4z-2 »

ognarb wrote: post #367
IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #216

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what about protonmail?

I have a protonmail premium account and I'm disappointed. First you can't use a native client in linux because the bridge isn't released yet (in the faq it's written it's planned to be released early 2018 lol). The android client doesn't like the fact that I desactived the google play service on my phone (how can a privacy focused email depends of the google play service? ). They hooked me up because they said that t…

I unfortunately have to second this.

The bridge solution is a nice attempt at supporting open standards, but it's not on Linux or Android which basically means my email is silo-ed. I can't use it with my regular mail client and the ProtonMail client will never be all things to everybody.

The android client at least does seem to run just fine without Play Services, it just pops up annoying notifications saying it needs them.

At this stage I'm probably looking at migrating away.

I'd really like a mail provider that lets me forward a few addresses to the rest of my family since I own lastname.nz, but that doesn't seem possible on most mail hosts without a full x-user enterprise setup.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ekianjo »

zaarn wrote: post #399
ekianjo wrote: post #352

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mozilla needs to ask before collecting data. What is difficult about that?

They need to ask if they collect personal data as per GDPR or the US Data Privacy laws. If the data collected is not of private nature they don't need to ask.

Usage patterns can be granular enough to identify a user online, its easy enough to do that with machine learning nowadays. They have to ask anyway.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ekianjo »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #182
ekianjo wrote: post #29

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For the lack of better alternatives (I need some specific extensions, and I don't want to use Chrome). I also use alternative browsers like qutebrowser but it cannot replace everything I need to do.

Have you tried Brave? I'm really liking it.

Nope, I want no ads in my browsers and Brave does not interest me in that sense.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by zaarn »

ekianjo wrote: post #414
zaarn wrote: post #399

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They need to ask if they collect personal data as per GDPR or the US Data Privacy laws. If the data collected is not of private nature they don't need to ask.

Usage patterns can be granular enough to identify a user online, its easy enough to do that with machine learning nowadays. They have to ask anyway.

It doesn't send that granular enough of a usage pattern though, they have a group of people making sure that they data they collect cannot be used to identify someone.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by reciprocity »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #174
move-on-by wrote: post #147

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I've pretty much made the same changes. I was luke-warm on the switch from chrome to Firefox until I started using containers and CookieAutoDelete with those containers. I have a 'Google' container that preserves google cookies for when I log into gmail (transition in progress)- but otherwise google cookies get automatically deleted. There are a handful of other sites I wish to stay logged into - like github, slack,…

What are you going to transition to from Gmail?

I went with Tutanota.com which on top of active development also communicates regularly with its users on what features are being worked on. Plus they allow you to have/create a bunch of different email addresses under the same mailbox.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by 24gttghh »

ddtaylor wrote: post #359
24gttghh wrote: post #186

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This is the case on Linux Mint. I can't even set Google as a search provider if I wanted to! Too bad Duck Duck Go is simply re-branded Bing results, and they kinda suck.

> Too bad Duck Duck Go is simply re-branded Bing results Do you have any source for this claim?

https://duck.co/help/results/sources

"In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Oath (formerly Yahoo) and Bing."

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by BrendanEich »

darkpuma wrote: post #249
jammygit wrote: post #157

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He's running brave now

And Steve Jobs was running NeXT. And like NeXT, Brave doesn't really seem to be catching on... From what I understand though, Eich has lost faith in Mozilla maintaining their own renderer, so if he came back to Mozilla it would probably coincide with Firefox becoming yet another chromium skin.

Mozilla is sticking with Gecko for now, and they do not need my faith to continue.

Brave is growing, has grown every month, not at over 5.5M MAU. I am not sure how to interpret "Brave doesn't seem to be catching on" as other than false. Firefox in 1H2004 was in a similar trendline. People then still said "IE for evar!"

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by DavideNL »

V-2 wrote: post #275
lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

I made another attempt to switch from Chrome to Firefox only now, like I've been doing every year or so for several years now. Sort of a tradition. This time it was the extensions that didn't cut it. One of the first things I do (after importing the bookmarks) is to install the same extensions, or find their equivalents. I heavily use customized mouse gestures. The extension I use on Chrome works like a charm. On Fir…

> I made another attempt to switch from Chrome to Firefox only now, like I've been doing every year or so for several years now. Sort of a tradition.

Same here! (except i'm using Brave instead of Chrome, it's also Chromium based and supports its extensions, without the Google tracking features.)

I don't understand why after so many years Firefox still doesn't support "pinch to zoom" on Macbooks/Laptops. For me it's such a basic feature, almost like a car without a proper steering wheel... not very smart if you want to attract more users.

At last, someone created an extension ("Multi-touch Zoom" https://github.com/haxiomic/firefox-multi-touch-zoom ), but unfortunately, it often doesn't work properly, like for example on this website...

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