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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by shmerl »

jhasse wrote: post #332
shmerl wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WebRender seems to be a prerequisite for it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563206 > The GPU->GPU copy is only usable if you also have hardware accelerated composition. I thought WebRender is implementing such compositor.

It is, but there was also another one in Firefox (you could enable it on Linux by setting layers.acceleration.force-enabled to true).

I suppose they didn't want to actively work on such features for something that's going to be deprecated. Since WebRender is their way forward, they can as well implement video acceleration together with it.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ekianjo »

zaarn wrote: post #257
brynjolf wrote: post #210

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But it isn't by default, that is the issue

If telemetry was off by default, Mozilla would be blind to what the users are doing, to common sources of crashes and to what features are not being used. Mozilla needs that information to be able to make a decision on where to focus. Same for ads, default off ads defeats the entire purpose. Mozilla is a privacy-aware and even -focused corporation and I will assume that the defaults of the browser are good for the co…

mozilla needs to ask before collecting data. What is difficult about that?

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by h1d »

tarabanga wrote: post #346
lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

> Passwords managed by bitwarden Is there a specific reason you don't use Firefox' password manager? (Read: Do I have reason to migrate out of it?)

It's obvious browser password managers are broken in a way it never locks its database, so anyone with physical access can log in to all the site you have passwords for, which also means changing password is easy as logging into your gmail also requires no knowledge.

To this day I can't believe none of the browsers actually try to fix this by at least locking the password database after a certain period like any password managers do. Safari at least disallows you from looking at the list of sites you have passwords for by requiring you to enter your account password but never asks you anything at each site's login.

For this reason, I never use browser based password managers.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by whatshisface »

51lver wrote: post #329
whatshisface wrote: post #231

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> "Things were better before so let's revert to where we were five years ago" is a terrible strategy. I mean, if things really were better before, reverting to how they were sounds like a pretty good strategy. That's kind of a tautology.

Worked pretty swell for intel when netburst got out of hand and they backtracked. 10 years of market dominance followed.

Intel can't revert the market back 10 years, but the problem with Mozilla isn't its struggles with the market. If it is true that Mozilla's problem is compromised leadership, then it would make perfect sense to go back to independent leadership.

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Post by ekianjo »

ForHackernews wrote: post #125
ekianjo wrote: post #78

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Yes, you can do that. But if you want it to be sustainable, you can't use that kind of line to convince people at large. And note that until Firefox 57, Firefox was not "marginally" inferior, it was substantially inferior in a number of metrics. They have improved since then, but it took them a very long time - you can't expect users to wait forever for you.

If we can't expect educated, tech-savvy users on HN to take the long view and support Mozilla, then I guess you're saying the game is already lost. We might as well just make our peace that the age of an open internet and general-purpose computing is coming to an end. In future, we'll enjoy AOL 2.0 access on our Google Home Terminal Appliances.

I was talking about "people at large", not HN users.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by TylerH »

Happy with a lot of stuff 65 introduced (this is a nice trend in a lot of recent Firefox releases)

One thing I'm not happy about; opted-in recommendations for addons when you browse websites.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by archon810 »

lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

And yet Firefox still doesn't have pull to refresh. How can they not support such a basic feature?

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by dlbucci »

archon810 wrote: post #357
lugg wrote: post #100

Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

And yet Firefox still doesn't have pull to refresh. How can they not support such a basic feature?

I don't particularly care for pull to refresh, given how frequently I refresh without meaning to because of it, but I do wish I didn't have to open the dropdown menu to get a refresh button to refresh the page.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by ddtaylor »

24gttghh wrote: post #186
ddtaylor wrote: post #111

I hope someday we'll see Duck Duck Go partner with Firefox as the default engine.

This is the case on Linux Mint. I can't even set Google as a search provider if I wanted to! Too bad Duck Duck Go is simply re-branded Bing results, and they kinda suck.

> Too bad Duck Duck Go is simply re-branded Bing results

Do you have any source for this claim?

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by seabrookmx »

vanderZwan wrote: post #306
seabrookmx wrote: post #278

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I think you're both right. On my Essential Phone (Snapdragon 835 running stock Android 9) pages tend to _render_ quicker in FF, but scrolling, pinch to zoom etc. is smoother in Chrome. I also find that Firefox will bog down after a month and I have to manually delete out its cache in app settings. I haven't had to do this for Chrome since back in the Android 5.x era.

The latter might also be due to extensions

I could see that.

Not the issue in my case though.. I don't use any extensions on my mobile browsers.

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