U.S. Accuses Huawei of Stealing Trade Secrets, Defrauding Banks

Post by Varcht » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 12:37 AM UTC

ndnxhs wrote: post #46

pkaye wrote: post #39

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Patents allow for the knowledge to be documented and the patent has a limited term after which anyone can use it. Without patents, more things would be kept as a trade secret.

The majority of things in patents could not be kept secret. What we end up with is disposable products because every part is patented so you can't make replacements or other devices that are compatible.

Post by seppin » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 12:39 AM UTC

dmode wrote: post #31

I am really concerned about the rapid development of the Huawei case. Sure Huawei has issues, but which corporation doesn’t. If you are an US exec, I would limit travel to China as one can risk being arrested for frivolous reasons.

Post by tossaccount123 » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 12:41 AM UTC

panarky wrote: post #4

These look like serious charges: Defrauding four large banks into clearing transactions with Iran in violation of international sanctions. Conspiracy to obstruct justice by moving employees out of the United States so they could not be called as witnesses before a grand jury in Brooklyn. Conspiracy to defraud the United States by impairing, impeding, obstructing and defeating, through deceitful and dishonest means, t…

Post by judge2020 » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 12:45 AM UTC

kuhhk wrote: post #60

charlesdm wrote: post #54

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> Huawei could call/email you the next day (in Chinese of course) if they find something they want to buy to get ahead. That's not stealing? That's just acquiring interesting tech.

I worked at a competitor of them, across the street from Huawei. It was common knowledge that they interviewed people without the intention to hire them, acted super interested, and asked increasingly pointed questions to get you to violate your NDAs, and describe projects you shouldn’t. And they would do the same to those they hired. These are personal anecdotes, but I’m not surprised by these accusations.

Post by Taniwha » Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 12:55 AM UTC

mehwoot wrote: post #67

Taniwha wrote: post #37

On what planet is the idea of making a robot with a mechanical finger to press phones to test them a trade secret .... (as a phone developer) it's so blooming obvious I've spent hours of meeting discussing exactly this It's only a trade secret if you think the entire rest of the world is stupid

It's not the idea, its the specific technology. took measurements of parts of the robot and, in one instance, stole a piece of the robot