Apple is patenting Swift features • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple is patenting Swift features

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Post by russh » Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 10:13 PM UTC

mikece wrote: post #67

Let's see if I have this right: Apple is patenting concepts in Swift then licensing it under Apache 2 in order to protect users of the language from patent trolls. So they are patenting something for our protection?

Yes, lets hope they don't alter the terms of the deal (again) at a further date.

Re: Apple is patenting Swift features

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Post by jordwalke » Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 11:34 AM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #200

dom96 wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is one very real reason to avoid languages owned by huge companies like Google's Go and Apple's Swift. They can and will do evil things, instead of supporting them please consider supporting smaller languages which are often just as good or better as Swift/Go.

Such as? Many of the newer languages I’m seeing, notably Swift and Go, but also TypeScript, ReasonML, and Rust have their development backed by one corporation.

This is definitely not true of ReasonML. ReasonML is just one part of a larger ecosystem that is pushed forward by a combination of academia and industry, and ReasonML is is very community focused/driven.

Re: Apple is patenting Swift features

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 5:10 AM UTC

maxdesiatov wrote: post #158

smaddox wrote: post #155

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Exactly! Apache 2 may protect users of Swift from suits for use of Swift itself, but it does not protect everyone else from suits for use of the concept elsewhere.

Including from suits from Apple itself for using concepts of Swift elsewhere in projects that were developed from scratch, not forked from Apple's projects, right?

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