TextMate finally gets an update

Post by gabrielroth » Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 1:57 PM UTC

5teev wrote: post #63

In spite of all the cool features, this update suffers from the same issue that drove me away the last time I tried Textmate: single-character undo. I can understand why this would appeal to some users, but most other text editors undo in bigger chunks, something I've come to expect and prefer. My original feeling about Textmate overall remains about the same. It probably appeals to recent OSX converts--it's a giant…

Post by orlandu63 » Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 2:12 PM UTC

sjs wrote: post #49

tres wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more that the audience for a TextMate type editor is extremely small. On one side, you've got all the IDEs, like NetBeans, IntelliJ & Eclipse (not to mention XCode) that go far beyond TextMate, really making the cost of TextMate seem ridiculous. On the other side you have free products that offer almost everything TextMate does for very simple editing. Textmate was a good idea back when support for inter…

Just like Emacs and vi eh? TextMate is pretty extensible. Extensible enough anyway, and you don't have to commit to a single language for extension, which is pretty cool. I like Lisp and hate vimscript, but when extending TextMate I can use shell, Lisp, Ruby, Python, or JavaScript, depending on the task at hand or my mood. I still hate TextMate. And Emacs. They all stink, but less than IDEs.

Post by sigzero » Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 2:20 PM UTC

mcav wrote: post #13

xtacy wrote: post #5

This doesn't seem to be that much of a change. Is there a wish list that people loved to see?

At this point, it's clear that TextMate won't be getting any major new changes unless the developer releases TextMate 2. I was surprised to see even these small fixes after such a dry spell.

Post by colomon » Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 2:25 PM UTC

haribilalic wrote: post #33

gaoshan wrote: post #31

The market must be pretty small for Mac native text editors (and they must be difficult to implement on a grand scale). Otherwise some company would have walked into the gaping void that has been the delay to release TextMate 2.0 and released something by now. The door has been wide open for some time but no one is able or willing to step through it. Oh well, helps explain the Vim goldrush of the past few months.

There's TextWrangler (free, http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ ), Smultron (free, http://smultron.sourceforge.net/ ) and BBEdit ($125, http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.html ). They're all popular. I'm a Textmate user though. I don't mind that there have been delays in releasing 2.0, because it doesn't make 1.5 any less useful — it does everything I want it to do and it's still supported.

Post by graywh » Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 2:46 PM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #23

enduser wrote: post #19

also in the news: vim does not need an update

It seems to have new bugfix releases every two years or so.