TextMate is the BBEdit of OS X.
Try to open your project whose files sit on a remote directory with Textmate and tell me if this joke is still funny.
TextMate finally gets an update
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Re: TextMate finally gets an update
#62Re: TextMate finally gets an update
#63In spite of all the cool features, this update suffers from the same issue that drove me away the last time I tried Textmate: single-character undo. I can understand why this would appeal to some users, but most other text editors undo in bigger chunks, something I've come to expect and prefer.
My original feeling about Textmate overall remains about the same. It probably appeals to recent OSX converts--it's a giant step forward from any Windows-based text editor I can think of--but lacks a certain "Mac-ness" long-time OSX users expect.
Thus Textmate risks falling into a no-man's land: users less set in their ways in the Mac world may settle for the relatively clunky IDE text editors; stubborn old-timers will prefer the more familiar feeling BBEdit.
As for the paucity of updates, let's cut Allan some slack. After some 20 years, BBEdit is only at version 9.6 and vim is only at version 7.3. Quality takes time.
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My biggest gripe with TM 1.5 is how Find in Project still beachballs on a new 3.33 6-core Westmere RAID 10 setup. Even after hearing everyone else's problems with FiP, I thought it might have been the slow HD in my last iMac. It's not. ;)
Definitely use the "Ack In Project" bundle instead of "Find in Project". It's like night and day.
The Ack in Project bundle has been deprecated by the creator in favor of the AckMate plugin. It has some major improvements over the bundle. Highly recommended.
Re: TextMate finally gets an update
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Emacs has git integration, have a look on emacs wiki
I've tried most of them and they didn't really do what I wanted. I don't want to do all my git commands from my editor, but I want my editor to visualize important stuff for the files I'm looking at. In netbeans the gutter of the open file is color coded to show how the code your looking at is different from HEAD (or whatever).
You could probably get emacs to do that without major trouble. That's the beauty of it: you can make it do what you want, which is something you always end up wanting, because nothing behaves exactly like you think it ought to.
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I can't speak for other communities, but all of the developers I who work with Ruby use TextMate. It may not be the majority, but the Ruby (and Rails) audience is certainly not "extremely small." A clean, extensible editor like TextMate that gets out of your way is all you really need when you're working with tools that don't require an IDE. I think the main reason we haven't seen a major update yet is that so many p…
This is interesting because it was NetBeans' Ruby and Rails support that led me to try it out in the first place. I could take this further, but it's not really germane; I think I wasn't very tactful in expressing my idea in my original post; the response is quite understandable. I'm not trying to state that TextMate is the wrong editor, or that there aren't a bunch of people who love it. I just personally think that…
I am going to have to disagree with you here. I love a good IDE and wish that everything that I did had code completion/intellisense. The thing that Textmate does well is that it is lightweight like a text editor but very extensible for most things.
What? you want code completion? well then hack up a ruby script and add it as a bundle. The thing that it really lacks is a decent lexer/parser. regular expressions are not good enough for the coloring and syntactic awareness that is needed for a tween text-editor/ide in my opinion.
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There's TextWrangler (free, http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ ), Smultron (free, http://smultron.sourceforge.net/ ) and BBEdit ($125, http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.html ). They're all popular. I'm a Textmate user though. I don't mind that there have been delays in releasing 2.0, because it doesn't make 1.5 any less useful — it does everything I want it to do and it's still supported.
Fraise is a continuation of the now abandoned Smultron.
Thanks for the tip, really nice! And lightweight... I can't stand these editors that need 45s to launch.
Re: TextMate finally gets an update
#68It seems to me that the author of TextMate is in a rather interesting position. he has created an editor with a cult like following that he has neither the time, manpower, or interest in updating.
I am sure that version 2 will be completed at some point, but at what cost to his sanity? Imagine for a moment if he just gave up and released the source for free.
Hundreds of itchy fingers across the net dig into the source, enhancing it, expanding it, fixing it, porting it to everything from Linux to the Nintendo DS. The cult of Textmate grows with each new release, finally bringing another contender to the editor wars long raged by vi and emacs.
Since Mr. TextMate dude no longer has a source of income, he decides to write a book about his experiences developing the app and his eventual burnout. It is an instant hit with geeks everywhere. He rakes in tons of money doing speaking engagements.
After a few years, the itch to code returns. Mr. TextMate's new app, TextyMatey - an editor that converts everything you type into pirate speak, becomes the first ever text editor to hit 1 million downloads in the first day. DVD sales of Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy skyrocket, prompting a visit from Johnny Depp. Mr TextMate and Johnny become fast friends and spend the rest of their days as men of leisure on the French Riviera.
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I think it's more that the audience for a TextMate type editor is extremely small. On one side, you've got all the IDEs, like NetBeans, IntelliJ & Eclipse (not to mention XCode) that go far beyond TextMate, really making the cost of TextMate seem ridiculous. On the other side you have free products that offer almost everything TextMate does for very simple editing. Textmate was a good idea back when support for inter…
Just like Emacs and vi eh? TextMate is pretty extensible. Extensible enough anyway, and you don't have to commit to a single language for extension, which is pretty cool. I like Lisp and hate vimscript, but when extending TextMate I can use shell, Lisp, Ruby, Python, or JavaScript, depending on the task at hand or my mood. I still hate TextMate. And Emacs. They all stink, but less than IDEs.
Why do you hate TexMate? And why do they all stink? Please explain, else it's just flame.
Re: TextMate finally gets an update
#70The previous update was on 2009-11-23. Almost a year ago. The full changelog for this release ... [2010-11-12: REVISION 1616] [CHANGED] Disable interactive input support as this is unfortunately causing too many problems on Snow Leopard. Ticket 75950BCB. [NEW] Set DisableClipboardPrecomposing to 1 to disable the precomposing introduced in r1589. [NEW] Included Make bundle among the default bundles. [FIXED] Solved pro…
Considering the timing and changelog of this release, I'd guess that Allan was in the old code base to prepare it for the Mac App Store and in the process decided to fix a few more issues and make a release out of it. Just a guess.