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US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages

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Re: US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages

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This is just wrong. Commercial flights fly all the time without ATC. The majority of airports in the USA are uncontrolled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-towered_airport

Commercial airliners do not take off in non-towered airports.

There are many Commercial flights every day to non-towered airports. In backcounty Alaska this is the norm. Clearly you have a big-city bias in your thinking.

Re: US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages

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In many western countries, when a government can't form a working coalition or agree on a budget, new elections are called.

Tell that to the Belgians, who took 541 days to form a government.

The big difference is that in Belgium if the government can't come up with a new budget the old one remains in force. You don't have the annual circus with spending re-authorizations for projects that span multiple budget periods and for infrastructure that needs to be maintained.

Re: US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages

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I don't know about striking per se. But I have been somewhat confused about why all these workers are reporting to work when they're not being paid. If it's purely out of good will and dedication for their jobs, I appreciate that, but I wonder if it doesn't just serve to mask the problem. Employment at will means that every day is a new agreement - I work then you pay. If one side of that declines, then so should the…

The government has effectively outlawed it. They could strike but then the strike would be illegal. It's never been tested in court but with the rush of federal appointments (all happening while we've been watching the circus) of conservative judges it doesn't bode well for worker rights.

I think you mean the government has outlawed striking. But I'm not sure the government has outlawed the ability of an individual to not work without pay.

Re: US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages

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First two results returned by searching for "federal shutdown loan" show 0% interest loans: https://www.navyfederal.org/about/government-shutdown.php https://www.interiorfcu.org/resources/government-shutdown/ I don't see how is it predatory. Considering that it costs bank about 2% to borrow money this is borderline charity.

Those are credit unions aimed at federal employees. Which means that a large chunk of their ownership is people affected by the shutdown. That’s not charity so much as helping themselves. Which is still great, obviously, but I wonder how it is for affected people who don’t belong to federal employee credit unions.

Chase and Citi have similar programs as well:

https://online.citi.com/JRS/pands/detail.do?ID=USGovShutdown...

https://media.chase.com/news/chase-assists-federal-employees...

It's one of those cases when every dime in interest will cost you a dollar in reputation.

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They in effect voted for a dictatorship, initially for Pompey on the ground of a terrorism threat, and then later were supportive of Caesar. Pompey used the democratic tribune system which had been abolished by a previous generation of the aristocracy. The dictator argued past the traditions of the Roman Republic as exemplified by the aristocrats, and appealed directly to the people.

They voted when society was already a de-facto oligarchy.

Yes, I think so, they in effect chose between an oligarchy and a dictatorship.

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Whoa, really? Do you know whether/which other airports are like this?

most others on here are small airports https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/screening-partnerships

Oh wow thank you!

Re: US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages

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I've seen too many people say, "Oh, government workers should all know this stuff happens all the time, and if they don't have months or years of savings in the bank then it's just their fault". It's really sad that instead of being compassionate, too many are focusing on what "should" be instead of what is the reality for many people. Like you point out, the reality is that most people don't have savings. They shoul…

A lot of people have a hard time showing empathy for others. Part of it can be due to immaturity or being overly sheltered, lack of social skills, etc. It's easy to be critical of others that make bad decisions but EVERYONE makes bad decisions, being imperfect and making mistakes is part of being human, and what might be easy for one person might not be easy for another person.

Yes. Talk about blaming the victim. We're putting 800,000 out of work for no reason and it's their fault? Give me a break.

Re: US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages

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Bearing in mind that ~40% of american's could not come up with $400 to cover emergencies, this is going to become more prevalent in the next few days / weeks as people will simply not be able to afford gas to get to their unpaid work. I read an article today discussing how TSA workers in HI are living in their cars in the airport parking lot as they cannot afford to commute. The FBI just cancelled its internship prog…

Serious questions I have: * Are senators/house reps being paid? If so - Why? * If the government is going to shit on people like this - then why are those people required to pay a tax (which is money extracted from the population to pay for services which the government provides - if the government refuses to provide those services, then why would you be obligated to pay a tax - thus the shutdown should be filed as a…

lol@thinking that people in power will vote to not pay themselves
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