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You just said it. They do their shopping in Oregon. So they probably buy the bottles their tax free. Save ten cents on tax, spend it on deposit. It's a wash to the consumer.
No, that's not how it works. If you buy cans/bottles in Oregon, you get the bottle tax. Separate from the sales tax.
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Moved away from MI, but I was not a fan of getting gross old soda on my hands when feeding them into the machines. The .10c is something I'm missing though.
That's why you buy a pack of latex gloves. I don't see anyone redeeming bottles/cans without wearing gloves.
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I don't think there are places in the city to take them. You need a car.
If you mean San Francisco, there used to be a place next to the Castro Safeway, but apparently now there are only places down on Bayshore.
Its a great success in Denmark too
Source: https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panteordning_for_flasker
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If return rate hits 100% then it's a success IMO. Oregan has then successfully ensured that for every bottle used in their state that they also recycle one. Does it matter if it's a non-Oregan bottle?
> Does it matter if it's a non-Oregan bottle? Insofar as part of the purpose is local waste stream diversion (because landfilling has costs), yes. It's true that the local cost is coupled with a remote benefit, but remote benefits have less value, ceteris paribus , to the people paying the costs.
There is fear that some significant portion of the recent increase in redemption rate may be due to fraud. Oregon recently increased the redemption from 5 cents to 10 cents, but the neighboring state of Washington still does not have a deposit. This creates an incentive for people to scavenge bottles in Washington and return them across the border in Oregon. Here's a recent article about the problem: "Oregon senator…
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some spillover from Washington or California, but I doubt that it can be an incredibly high percentage. Frankly, I think it’s better that these cans and bottles are being recycled, fraudulently or otherwise. I’m sure it hurts the Oregon pocketbook, but according to the article, the cost of the program is only six figures. This is only a problem (cost wise) when redemption is over 1…
There is fear that some significant portion of the recent increase in redemption rate may be due to fraud. Oregon recently increased the redemption from 5 cents to 10 cents, but the neighboring state of Washington still does not have a deposit. This creates an incentive for people to scavenge bottles in Washington and return them across the border in Oregon. Here's a recent article about the problem: "Oregon senator…
As an Oregon resident I actually feel like those bottles getting redeemed from out-of-state is better off than them going into a landfill. I think we can take whatever the offset to revenue is.
There is fear that some significant portion of the recent increase in redemption rate may be due to fraud. Oregon recently increased the redemption from 5 cents to 10 cents, but the neighboring state of Washington still does not have a deposit. This creates an incentive for people to scavenge bottles in Washington and return them across the border in Oregon. Here's a recent article about the problem: "Oregon senator…
Is this still even a thing? Michigan also has a 10 cent deposit, and fraud was an issue in the 90's, but it's been fixed since. Grocery stores use automated bottle scanners to check barcodes. I'm not sure how you could "fool" a machine that needs a barcode for each physical bottle return.
You photocopy a sheet of barcodes and stick them on the bottles.
Some machines you can even hold the barcode in your hand, and put the bottle in, then you can put anything in and reuse the barcode endlessly.
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You mean print proper barcode and put it over original one?
For $0.10 a can, I don't see this strategy being profitable.
There is fear that some significant portion of the recent increase in redemption rate may be due to fraud. Oregon recently increased the redemption from 5 cents to 10 cents, but the neighboring state of Washington still does not have a deposit. This creates an incentive for people to scavenge bottles in Washington and return them across the border in Oregon. Here's a recent article about the problem: "Oregon senator…
What's the real fear here? That this Senator hasn't had her name in the papers in a while?