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Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by nbabitskiy »

kingofhdds wrote: post #16
bb101 wrote: post #4

I suppose it might serve as a useful warning for readers from other countries, especially if their country doesn't have tabloids of their own. I would say most people in the UK know to take news from certain publications with a grain of salt, but it can be far from obvious for others.

There are no countries where there are media, but no "tabloids" (also the term can be different). The UK is not that unique as you seem to believe.

UK is somewhat unique. As a football fan, I know way more than I'd like to about extramarital activities of the English Premiere League players. I don't read the Sun, but this knowledge permeates /r/soccer etc. It's probably related to the fact, that almost all the commenters who have a judgement about the family life of the sportsmen they've never met are British or American.

All countries have vulgar media, but generally they print personal stories only after there have been charges pressed, or someone got sued.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by nickcotter »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #14
kdf83 wrote: post #7

Shit. This is disgraceful. One can disagree with how the DailyMail paints stories but this is simply censorship by the left.

I was 100% in agreement with you up until "the left" part. Do you have any evidence that this is some sort of coordinated effort by this mysterious political group?

It’s literally the number one thing that those of my associates who identify as right wing universally agree on: there’s some kind of free speech apocalypse unfolding. They view this as censorship.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by ihattendorf »

zimpenfish wrote: post #19
beaconstudios wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

either way, browser vendors should not be the arbiters of truth. I can't think of a news source that hasn't had at least some falsities published - it's the nature of the industry. Sure, the Daily Mail is notably worse than others. But to single them out for "fake news" labelling is worryingly arbitrary.

> But to single them out for "fake news" labelling is worryingly arbitrary. Wikipedia did it in 2017 - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia... It's not like this is a random bolt from the blue.

But Wikipedia isn't my browser. I don't think anyone is arguing that Daily Mail isn't garbage, just that it isn't the browser's job to decide what is and isn't garbage.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by Bendingo »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #37
kingofhdds wrote: post #15

My immediate reaction to a browser giving unsolicited advices about quality of the contents is to download another browser. I'm not a kid, thank you.

I'm not a kid, thank you. Yet your response is very child like.

On the contrary, GP is resisting the continual infantilising of Western countries by their corporates, media and governments.

"to treat someone as if that person were a child, with the result that they start behaving like one" [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infantil...

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by claudiawerner »

Bendingo wrote: post #44
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a kid, thank you. Yet your response is very child like.

On the contrary, GP is resisting the continual infantilising of Western countries by their corporates, media and governments. "to treat someone as if that person were a child, with the result that they start behaving like one" [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infantil...

The doctrine of legal paternalism is much less commonly seen now than it was in the past, with a few exceptions.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by TheOperator »

MadraRua wrote: post #23

So its Snopes for the Web? There would need to be some transparency issues sorted out (i.e, we need to know who's grading the sites and that the service is open to scrutiny) but the concept is good at least.

I think the essential feature is to be able to change databases that determine what is or is not fake news.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by kingofhdds »

nbabitskiy wrote: post #41
kingofhdds wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no countries where there are media, but no "tabloids" (also the term can be different). The UK is not that unique as you seem to believe.

UK is somewhat unique. As a football fan, I know way more than I'd like to about extramarital activities of the English Premiere League players. I don't read the Sun, but this knowledge permeates /r/soccer etc. It's probably related to the fact, that almost all the commenters who have a judgement about the family life of the sportsmen they've never met are British or American. All countries have vulgar media, but gen…

The distinction you are talking about is sports being included into pop culture. My remark was about media landscape. The thing Brits call "tabloid" (not referring to paper size) exists everywhere, it's just that football players may be deemed less worthy of gossips in other places.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Post by ilaksh »

Who decides which sites have "real" news and which sites have "fake" news? A big thing missing from these discussions is the history of propaganda. I think a lot of people who are worried about "fake news" need to research that term.

Propaganda is still very prevalent especially as far as war goes. Do people really think that CNN tells them the real reasons for going to war? They will say whatever the Pentagon tells them. Why? Because no one is going to risk their lives and kill other people for some technical, strategic reason or just as part of a larger military campaign. People risk their lives to fight the "bad guys" who are "evil". They need to believe its a moral cause.

Don't let some giant company (or a small one) dictate what source your information comes from. If I used a Microsoft browser I would uninstall that plugin. Assuming that's an option.

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