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Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Not cool. I can see that browsers want to warn people of (technically) dangerous websites. But websites that are 'wrong'? Slippiest of slopes.

I agree that Microsoft in particular cannot be trusted to do this. They will inevitably display the same warning if the user attempts to view, say, the Halloween documents or visit Linux.org.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s dumb. Nobody is being prevented from reading the content. They’re just being warned—correctly—that the information is unreliable.

I would be more in favour of this if it had a click through with a more-information thingy which would show their reasoning applied to other news similar news sites that hadn't had a warning applied to them so users could have a chance to judge the accuracy. For example in this situation maybe it is based on how many retractions daily mail has made. So it might show a table of news-sites and the retractions and an in…

It does. It's right there in white-on-blue in the picture at the start of the headlined article.

Have an explanation of NewsGuard ... from the Daily Mail.

* https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-5464649/NewsGu...

(Well, really it's from AFP.)

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no countries where there are media, but no "tabloids" (also the term can be different). The UK is not that unique as you seem to believe.

I beg to differ. An example is Australia. Plenty of national and regional broadsheets, but no purposefully trashy tabloids that I can think of.

But do you know about Bat boy?

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no countries where there are media, but no "tabloids" (also the term can be different). The UK is not that unique as you seem to believe.

I beg to differ. An example is Australia. Plenty of national and regional broadsheets, but no purposefully trashy tabloids that I can think of.

Herald Sun? It's owned by Murdoch too.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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So its Snopes for the Web? There would need to be some transparency issues sorted out (i.e, we need to know who's grading the sites and that the service is open to scrutiny) but the concept is good at least.

I suggest reading an actual NewsGuard "nutrition label" before commenting on what's missing from them.

* https://www.newsguardtech.com/ratings/sample-nutrition-label...

Here's someone who has:

* http://www.niemanlab.org/2018/08/newsguard-considers-fox-new...

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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post #31
post #2

Not cool. I can see that browsers want to warn people of (technically) dangerous websites. But websites that are 'wrong'? Slippiest of slopes.

I agree that Microsoft in particular cannot be trusted to do this. They will inevitably display the same warning if the user attempts to view, say, the Halloween documents or visit Linux.org.

My understanding is the service itself isn't being provided by Microsoft.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

#37

My immediate reaction to a browser giving unsolicited advices about quality of the contents is to download another browser. I'm not a kid, thank you.

I'm not a kid, thank you.

Yet your response is very child like.

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

#38

My immediate reaction to a browser giving unsolicited advices about quality of the contents is to download another browser. I'm not a kid, thank you.

I'm not a kid, thank you. Yet your response is very child like.

I don't see it that way. Could it be some sort of culturally narrow stereotyping on you side?

As for the topic I'm interested if you really feel it ok for you to be a subject of a soft form of parental control from a commercial entity?

Re: Don’t trust Daily Mail website, Microsoft browser warns users

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I suppose it might serve as a useful warning for readers from other countries, especially if their country doesn't have tabloids of their own. I would say most people in the UK know to take news from certain publications with a grain of salt, but it can be far from obvious for others.

* I would say most people in the UK know to take news from certain publications with a grain of salt*

Not in my experience, there are people in my own family who lap it up.

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