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“The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by scottlocklin »

BossingAround wrote: post #58

Blogging has transformed and moved. Twitter is a kind of blogging--only more concise, and consequently, much easier. Facebook, as well as Linkedin, may scratch the same itch as blogging. And, the bonus is that your content is much more visible and accessible. Even if you post a link to your blog on linkedin, maybe 5-10% of people will click it, from my experience. This is mostly a response to the comments, saying tha…

Twitter is the comments section most media outlets have removed. Media likes it because it's usually all about them, and screencapping it often makes their jobs easier (aka "look at this twitter thread" between X and Y). Otherwise, it's disqus with a different distribution model.

Blogs are doing just fine. LJ simply became a Russian blog platform rather than and English language one. It did have some social media aspects back in the day, but it assumed a couple of standard deviation higher IQ (or at least attention span) in its users, favoring long form posts with lots of imagery. It didn't become a disgusting FB megacorp because it didn't cater to the lowest common denominator, or hire people to make it addictive. FWIIW Brad did fine.

Tools like this should be the goal, not evil garbage like FB.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by maxxxxx »

CM30 wrote: post #53
robjan wrote: post #12

It seems that blogging for the sake of blogging has been mostly lost, to be honest. I miss the time when blogs were more than self promotion and content marketing.

Feels like the idea of doing a hobby for the sake of it seems to have been lost in general. Everything's always got to be about 'making it your main job' or 'turning it into a million dollar business' or what not. And yeah, I miss that too. Especially given how much more entertaining it often is to read a post by an interested expert than by someone trying to make a quick buck.

I think the invention of "like" and "thumbs up" has ruined the internet. Instead of doing things for fun it's too easy to get sucked into chasing approval.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by mprev »

BossingAround wrote: post #58

Blogging has transformed and moved. Twitter is a kind of blogging--only more concise, and consequently, much easier. Facebook, as well as Linkedin, may scratch the same itch as blogging. And, the bonus is that your content is much more visible and accessible. Even if you post a link to your blog on linkedin, maybe 5-10% of people will click it, from my experience. This is mostly a response to the comments, saying tha…

The comment about "blogging for the sake of blogging" (it would've provided better context if you'd replied to that, btw) made the comment that what we have now is mostly content marketing and self promotion. I don't see how pointing at social media refutes that.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by zwayhowder »

ubermonkey wrote: post #27
AsyncAwait wrote: post #4

As for the headline, I don't know what Linux lost. Loss implies that you had it at some point, but Linux never really had the desktop, (sadly), so it could not have lost it. It still dominates in the server, supercomputer & embedded markets.

I'd love to peek at the alternate universe wherein Apple doesn't migrate to the FreeBSD-based OSX. In the late 90s I got so worn out with stability issues inherent to Win98 on laptops that I switched to the Mac, largely because a co-worker was using one and I could SEE how much it didn't crash, and how sleep actually WORKED, and how good the hardware was, etc. Since my job at the time was primarily project management…

Funny I'm old enough to remember when Mac stood for "Most Applications Crash" and the even older Macintosh: "Most Applications Crash, if not the operating system hangs". Of course it was competing against my DOS environment that didn't have a mouse, which was clearly the root cause of all the issues.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by nailer »

emilsedgh wrote: post #7
nailer wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux also dominates mobile, which in turn dominates desktop.

Linux kernel has a good presence on the mobile through Android but the Linux ecosystem aka GNU/Linux does not. And it seems that Google has plans to swap Linux with Fuschia in the long term.

Yes, and yes, but I know this, you know this, everyone on HN knows this, everything possible has been said, and reminding us doesn't contribute anything

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by dvtrn »

scottlocklin wrote: post #61
BossingAround wrote: post #58

Blogging has transformed and moved. Twitter is a kind of blogging--only more concise, and consequently, much easier. Facebook, as well as Linkedin, may scratch the same itch as blogging. And, the bonus is that your content is much more visible and accessible. Even if you post a link to your blog on linkedin, maybe 5-10% of people will click it, from my experience. This is mostly a response to the comments, saying tha…

Twitter is the comments section most media outlets have removed. Media likes it because it's usually all about them, and screencapping it often makes their jobs easier (aka "look at this twitter thread" between X and Y). Otherwise, it's disqus with a different distribution model. Blogs are doing just fine. LJ simply became a Russian blog platform rather than and English language one. It did have some social media asp…

Media likes it because it's usually all about them, and screencapping it often makes their jobs easier

I hate how true this can be.

"The internet is furious at celebrity"

Article sources the entirety of two mildly annoyed nobodies on twitter.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by nailer »

claudiawerner wrote: post #48
nailer wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case it's not glaringly obvious, I don't think an adult would care about fictional children. Livejournal users, did, however, care about other adults who are sexually attracted to children.

>Livejournal users, did, however, care about other adults who are sexually attracted to children. What makes you say that the people writing the stories had a sexual attraction to children? (and by 'children' I mean as we commonly understand it: real children). I wouldn't say that a vore or zombie fetishist wants to be eaten, eat people or have sex with the dead, nor would I say that a My Little Pony fetishist wants…

Yes but most people don't want their journal on an incest or rape forum either.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by username223 »

walterbell wrote: post #56
username223 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sturgeon's Law applies as much as it always has, but the personal blogs that existed before "content marketing" became a thing are mostly still around. Just ignore tech-of-the-moment.google.com/blog.

Any recommendations on how to discover them, since search engines don't work (SEO)? Is there a search engine which does web of trust analysis on indie blogrolls/webrings?

When you stumble upon a good article, subscribe to its RSS feed if it has one, and unsubscribe if it gets boring. Eventually you'll end up with an interesting collection of blogs. I wish I could help more, but most of the blogs I follow are probably uninteresting to you.

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Post by smacktoward »

BossingAround wrote: post #58

Blogging has transformed and moved. Twitter is a kind of blogging--only more concise, and consequently, much easier. Facebook, as well as Linkedin, may scratch the same itch as blogging. And, the bonus is that your content is much more visible and accessible. Even if you post a link to your blog on linkedin, maybe 5-10% of people will click it, from my experience. This is mostly a response to the comments, saying tha…

Twitter is blogging with all the good things about blogging stripped out. This did indeed make it easier, in the sense that just bleating whatever happens to be in your head, or venting insta-reactions to whatever happens to be passing in front of your eyes, are always going to be easier than thinking hard and crafting an argument. The result of all that ease and accessibility is a cesspool that has damaged lives, the culture, and arguably democracy itself.

Seeing Twitter described as an improved, evolved form of blogging is like seeing someone awful peel the skin off the body of your dear friend and wear it as a suit.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by int0x80 »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #21
oytis wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In how people use it (isn't it the most important thing about a social network?). In Telegram channels one can find really interesting blogs about pretty much everything from evolutionary biology to book reviews or music theory. It is very similar to how people used to use LiveJournal and quite unlike how people use Facebook (mostly posting photos or tiny pieces of text about themselves).

How do you discover such content? I use Telegram just for chatting and never saw such 'blogs'

There is also a channel search feature in telegram web something. IIRC.

E: like this https://tlgrm.eu/channels

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