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“The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by yoodenvranx »

oytis wrote: post #16
chaosite wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way is Telegram similar to Facebook or LiveJournal?

In how people use it (isn't it the most important thing about a social network?). In Telegram channels one can find really interesting blogs about pretty much everything from evolutionary biology to book reviews or music theory. It is very similar to how people used to use LiveJournal and quite unlike how people use Facebook (mostly posting photos or tiny pieces of text about themselves).

How do you discover such content? I use Telegram just for chatting and never saw such 'blogs'

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Post by simion314 »

nailer wrote: post #18
simion314 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Well sure, but a large part of the regular userbase (not religious folk) were not comfortable with adults writing pornography I never used it but why would a non religious activist do something about it, complain, sign petitions, or even waste a thought about what some character is doing in a fictional world they don't read. Most probably as always there is a vocal minority

In case it's not glaringly obvious, I don't think an adult would care about fictional children. Livejournal users, did, however, care about other adults who are sexually attracted to children.

>Livejournal users, did, however, care about other adults who are sexually attracted to children.

My question was if there was a large of users that cared about the fictional characters or just very few. Or maybe was some social media thing that forced the company to change the terms. I know from recent events that Patreon and Steam were pressured by this groups, I think Patreon updated some terms but Steam did not.

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Post by username223 »

robjan wrote: post #12

It seems that blogging for the sake of blogging has been mostly lost, to be honest. I miss the time when blogs were more than self promotion and content marketing.

Sturgeon's Law applies as much as it always has, but the personal blogs that existed before "content marketing" became a thing are mostly still around. Just ignore tech-of-the-moment.google.com/blog.

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Post by macleginn »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #21
oytis wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In how people use it (isn't it the most important thing about a social network?). In Telegram channels one can find really interesting blogs about pretty much everything from evolutionary biology to book reviews or music theory. It is very similar to how people used to use LiveJournal and quite unlike how people use Facebook (mostly posting photos or tiny pieces of text about themselves).

How do you discover such content? I use Telegram just for chatting and never saw such 'blogs'

People advertise them in other channels and on other social media (VK, FB). Hugely popular channels get mentioned or even cited (cf. news channel Mash) by online news outlets.

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Post by astura »

robjan wrote: post #12

It seems that blogging for the sake of blogging has been mostly lost, to be honest. I miss the time when blogs were more than self promotion and content marketing.

Most "blogging" type activities have moved to different platforms - Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, group chats, etc.

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Post by ubermonkey »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #4

As for the headline, I don't know what Linux lost. Loss implies that you had it at some point, but Linux never really had the desktop, (sadly), so it could not have lost it. It still dominates in the server, supercomputer & embedded markets.

I'd love to peek at the alternate universe wherein Apple doesn't migrate to the FreeBSD-based OSX.

In the late 90s I got so worn out with stability issues inherent to Win98 on laptops that I switched to the Mac, largely because a co-worker was using one and I could SEE how much it didn't crash, and how sleep actually WORKED, and how good the hardware was, etc. Since my job at the time was primarily project management, and I lived in Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, I had no compatibility issues, and my work life got better.

Then the dot-com crash happened and I found myself coding again as a freelancer on web projects, all of which were LAMP-stack efforts. My Mac had shipped with OS 9, but by then I'd upgraded to OS X -- which could run the same frameworks we were using on the server. My dev environment was my actual laptop, which was GREAT.

I feel like that was the moment that the Mac pulled in a lot of very technical and very influential people, with good reason. If OS X hadn't happened, I suspect desktop Linux would be further along because lots of people like me would've been kinda forced into it ca. 2001-2002 instead of having the Apple option.

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by kingofhdds »

oytis wrote: post #8

In Russia the popularity of livejournal has also dropped with the advent of Facebook, and there it has nothing to do with obscene fan fiction. Facebook has just found a more addictive model with a lower entry barrier. On the bright side we now have Telegram, which allows for a similar communication style, just without comments (which is IMO a good thing as well).

Telegram, which allows for a similar communication style, just without comments

Without comments means it cannot be similar. LJ allows horizontal communication, Telegram channel is essentially a radio in text. No interaction except for polls initiated by channel owner.

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Post by simula67 »

oytis wrote: post #8

In Russia the popularity of livejournal has also dropped with the advent of Facebook, and there it has nothing to do with obscene fan fiction. Facebook has just found a more addictive model with a lower entry barrier. On the bright side we now have Telegram, which allows for a similar communication style, just without comments (which is IMO a good thing as well).

Isn't vk more popular than Facebook in Russia ?

Re: “The Linux of social media” – How LiveJournal pioneered, then lost, blogging

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Post by devereaux »

ubermonkey wrote: post #27
AsyncAwait wrote: post #4

As for the headline, I don't know what Linux lost. Loss implies that you had it at some point, but Linux never really had the desktop, (sadly), so it could not have lost it. It still dominates in the server, supercomputer & embedded markets.

I'd love to peek at the alternate universe wherein Apple doesn't migrate to the FreeBSD-based OSX. In the late 90s I got so worn out with stability issues inherent to Win98 on laptops that I switched to the Mac, largely because a co-worker was using one and I could SEE how much it didn't crash, and how sleep actually WORKED, and how good the hardware was, etc. Since my job at the time was primarily project management…

> I'd love to peek at the alternate universe wherein Apple doesn't migrate to the FreeBSD-based OSX. (…) > I feel like that was the moment that the Mac pulled in a lot of very technical and very influential people, with good reason

You can look right now at what's happening to these very technical people. The ones I know are giving up on Apple and moving to Microsoft instead: because the WSL subsystem works, and the keyboard has most of the keys they want.

We are living in interesting times!

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