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Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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> Yes, the demand really is that low. Do you have any evidence for that? There are virtually no, modern, reasonably-specced and reasonably priced phones with smaller screens available currently, so it's no wonder they're not selling. In the Android world, there's only a couple of low-end Nokia phones (Nokia 1 - 4.5" screen and Nokia 3 - 5.2" screen), low-end Samsungs like the Galaxy J3 and the high-end and expensive…

In 2016, 4 inch Apple phones accounted for only 16% of total iPhone sales (see bottom of [1]). The market clearly shifted to favor bigger screens. Personally, I love the SE form factor and will only begrudgingly get a bigger phone when this one dies, but every time someone sees it they inevitably comment to the effect of "why is your phone so small?" The general market expectation is now that bigger = better, unfortu…

This is a little misleading. The last “flagship” 4 inch iPhone was released in 2013 (iPhone 5), so it makes sense that 3 years later that they would only account for a minority of devices sold.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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> Yes, the demand really is that low. Do you have any evidence for that? There are virtually no, modern, reasonably-specced and reasonably priced phones with smaller screens available currently, so it's no wonder they're not selling. In the Android world, there's only a couple of low-end Nokia phones (Nokia 1 - 4.5" screen and Nokia 3 - 5.2" screen), low-end Samsungs like the Galaxy J3 and the high-end and expensive…

In 2016, 4 inch Apple phones accounted for only 16% of total iPhone sales (see bottom of [1]). The market clearly shifted to favor bigger screens. Personally, I love the SE form factor and will only begrudgingly get a bigger phone when this one dies, but every time someone sees it they inevitably comment to the effect of "why is your phone so small?" The general market expectation is now that bigger = better, unfortu…

And that would still be over 35 million phones -or 10 times more phones than Google sells in a year.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Hardware lends itself to a vertical business model, Apple has clearly been the best example but even video game console manufacturers write their own games. With AI assistants seemingly the 'next big thing', which lends itself to a more horizontal model, will Apple change gears to accommodate? Their services division has been growing rapidly. Apple could leverage it's brand to create an awesome cell phone at a very c…

Not a lot of low income people are buying the the XR, my sister has had to replace her iPhone for at least six months but as a college student she's not going to spend a grand on a phone.

Why do people act as if the only choice for Apple products is the highest priced option? This is about how people are composing that they have to buy AirPods now that there is no headphone jack.

Apple sells the iPhone 7 for $475.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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> It's a 2016 model, so it should remain supported until at least 2021. According to [1], customers "may obtain service and parts from Apple or Apple service providers for 5 years after the product is no longer manufactured" -- not from when the model was first manufactured. The 32/128 GB models were manufactured from 2017-2018, so these should be supported until 2023. [1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624

I think he means “iOS supported”.

Well seeing that the iPhone 5s from 2013 is still supported in 2019, I don’t see any reason that the SE/6S won’t get support until 2021.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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I think he means “iOS supported”.

Well seeing that the iPhone 5s from 2013 is still supported in 2019, I don’t see any reason that the SE/6S won’t get support until 2021.

That’s what reaperducer said (“it should remain supported until at least 2021”), while ken says that getting parts and service should be possible until 2023.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

Since no one here is rushing to get the small xperia phones I'm guessing it is one of those things people want, but at the same time is the first feature they are willing to give up. another case in point: parent only wants to change to smaller phone if all other specs are also improved.

Reading on materialistic using Xperia xz1 compact. I love this phone so much. After my Nexus 5 went dead I was lost until I found this for sale on eBay India. 6-7 hours battery life and the power this phone has, I am loving every bit of it.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Do you have any insight as to why? I'm part of that minority and small phones seem better in so many ways. My hands are relatively big I think, but even with "small" phones now I can barely use them with one hand. The smaller screen uses less battery. Larger phones don't fit in pockets very well and result in a spot that wears through on my jeans where the corner of the phone pokes out from my pocket. I'm really stru…

Clothing should have a certain amount of utility, IMO. Perhaps it's the jeans that need to be updated. I'm pretty happy with the size of my phone currently, not sure it qualifies as small or large. Largest phone I had was for work, Iphone 6+, that thing was unwieldy, essentially a tablet. I wouldn't own one that big personally.

Cargo pants, right? The modern variant is called “tactical”, and can be found with flat sides rather than bulky pouches. In a dark color the pockets are almost invisible.

Vertx Legacy are my favorite. The thigh pocket has an inner magazine pocket that holds a phone perfectly. Or a backup battery. If you carry two phones, it keeps them from clunking into each other.

https://vertx.com/mens-legacy-pants

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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> Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market? My wife wants a phone that can fit into her jean pockets. Requiring handbags just to carry a phone around is absurd, and untenable for many people.

What's absurd is the size of pockets in women's clothing.

Yeah it's bizarre how they keep buying dysfunctional clothing.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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I like small phones because I feel that they're a better tradeoff between form + functionality. I want a premium phone, and I'm willing to pay a lot for it, but I also want to spend as little time on my phone as possible. A smaller screen gives me all the benefit while being easy to carry and handle, and the small screen keeps me from using it too much. I also happen to think small screens feel more elegant. The prom…

Totally agree. HNers do understand the tradeoffs better. It's like when they started making laptop screen reflective. All my non-tech relatives were saying: "wow that screen is super nice" while I was thinking: "holy crap, the matte screen is disappearing, how I am going to work?"

> how I am going to work?"

My luggable laptop for real work away from home or in equipment rooms has a 2010 4:3 matt screen

My portable laptop for quick emails while moving and occasional corporate stuff is a 13" gloss screen mac, but when it comes to productive work give me a good OS on a good laptop any day.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Staring at a phone is not good for your eyes, due to the short distance. A small SE phone for critical/mobile tasks and iPad for reading is a practical combo.

is that true? I mean, that staring at a screen degrades your vision? I haven't read anything convincing on the subject.

My parents always said I'd get square eyes if I watched TV too much
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