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Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by twblalock »

thedays wrote: post #145
twblalock wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the demand really is that low. People who want a smaller phone in 2019 are a very small yet very vocal minority. If there was a large untapped market for smaller phones, then the limited number of small phones on the market would be selling a lot better than they actually are. Somebody would notice and start making more of them. Like phones with physical keyboards, phones with small screens have become a niche p…

> Yes, the demand really is that low. Do you have any evidence for that? There are virtually no, modern, reasonably-specced and reasonably priced phones with smaller screens available currently, so it's no wonder they're not selling. In the Android world, there's only a couple of low-end Nokia phones (Nokia 1 - 4.5" screen and Nokia 3 - 5.2" screen), low-end Samsungs like the Galaxy J3 and the high-end and expensive…

> There are virtually no, modern, reasonably-specced and reasonably priced phones with smaller screens available currently, so it's no wonder they're not selling.

They don't exist because phone companies know that the demand is too low to justify the investment.

If you want to convince people that the demand is there, you'll need to explain why every phone manufacturer has come to the opposite conclusion. Not a single one is making small high end phones. Is every manufacturer blind to market demand and/or stupid?

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by protomyth »

zach43 wrote: post #88
cpcallen wrote: post #78

Aaand... they're gone.

theyre still available in other colors here: https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/clearance i just ordered one, finally got the phone ive wanted!

Well, it looks like all clearance iPhones are gone.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by brohoolio »

FreakyT wrote: post #129
maz1b wrote: post #106

I don't understand why Apple can't update the SE in its current design iteration. Obviously if they can release a redesigned iPhone in a small form factor, I'd hop on it. I want a small one handed device that has the latest specs and TouchID, and a headphone jack.

Back when I bought my SE, it was cheaper than getting a 6, despite having better specs. I also check for deals online a lot, and the SE was almost constantly being discounted. I think it's not unreasonable, based on these, to assume that it never really sold particularly well. Based on that, I'd say that they stopped making the SE simply because only a very small, specific slice of the market actually wants to purcha…

The 5s/SE is less than 5% of mobile traffic at our site.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by brohoolio »

stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

My dream phone is a “military grade” SE. Slightly larger battery, rugged phone. I know it would be thicker, I’d be good with that.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by darkpuma »

lostlogin wrote: post #77
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

Before iphones got big, I used to regularly see iphone owners mocking large android phones, saying that large phones are inconvenient, unnecessary, uncomfortable, etc.

Perhaps those people were serious, and now feel like they've been left out in the cold.

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Post by _chris_ »

lostlogin wrote: post #77
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

> Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

My wife wants a phone that can fit into her jean pockets. Requiring handbags just to carry a phone around is absurd, and untenable for many people.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by inferiorhuman »

wodenokoto wrote: post #89
lostlogin wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only is this something I’d love, it’s also a comment that gets a lot of upvotes on Hackers News every time it’s made. Do HN readers have an unusual like for ‘small’ phones or is it just an unserved market?

Since no one here is rushing to get the small xperia phones I'm guessing it is one of those things people want, but at the same time is the first feature they are willing to give up. another case in point: parent only wants to change to smaller phone if all other specs are also improved.

Size isn't the first thing I'm willing to forgo, but until there's another phone (Android or otherwise) that eschews the user-as-a-product model I'm sticking with the Apple ecosystem. Before Apple, I had a BlackBerry Z10 which I liked quite a lot. Unfortunately my friend's kid broke the screen.

Of course I'm not convinced Sony's learned anything from putting rootkits on their music CDs either.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by Sendotsh »

brohoolio wrote: post #154
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

My dream phone is a “military grade” SE. Slightly larger battery, rugged phone. I know it would be thicker, I’d be good with that.

I'd love an SE with a better camera and a "weekend long" battery, meaning I can go camping or whatever Friday evening, come back Sunday night, and use it a fair bit for photos and music and stuff while away. Give it a tough exterior and I'd settle for it being twice as thick as current, and all the associated weight, and pay a premium for it.

I miss having tough phones that lasted for days. All the current tough phones have really really crap specs and run Android that's multiple versions behind, and Apple hardware these days needs to be treated like a newborn baby.

Re: Apple resumes selling iPhone SE at lower $249 price on its clearance store

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Post by remarkEon »

brohoolio wrote: post #154
stanmancan wrote: post #71

The only thing that could get me to upgrade from my iPhone 7 would be a premium version of the iPhone SE. I want a smaller phone, not a bigger one, but I want updated specs and possibly an OLED screen.

My dream phone is a “military grade” SE. Slightly larger battery, rugged phone. I know it would be thicker, I’d be good with that.

This is literally what I want, badly.

I recently upgraded my 7 to an 8 because my 7 was too easy to damage - even with a rather rugged case (a simple drop shattered the screen). I'm really uninterested in things like camera upgrades (male, early 30s). After this phone, this will be the first time I seriously entertain a non-Apple product for my computing hardware.

At the usual Apple price point, a military grade phone is what I should expect.

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