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'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by bluedino »

xyzzyz wrote: post #77
MisterOctober wrote: post #55

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I disliked pickup trucks for their size and fuel consumption until I owned a house and got heavily into gardening. Home maintenance and significant garden activity are made waaaaay easier by having a truck [or big van, I guess] available. That said, I still don't personally own a truck, borrowing them as needed. An all-electric model of good quality would be pretty tempting to me.

I rent trailers from U-Haul for that, it's only $15/day.

You can rent a truck from any of the big home improvement store chains fairly cheap as well.

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Post by bluedino »

awful wrote: post #161
mikekchar wrote: post #106

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Interestingly (perhaps?) we got a Leaf a few months ago and the biggest thing that surprised me is that it is massive inside. I guess because the battery is stored under the floor. Although I have relatively short arms for someone my height (5' 10"), I still think it's instructive to say that when I'm sitting in the passenger seat, I can't touch the dash without leaning forward. And, again, I have slightly shorter le…

Tesla same; drove one a few weeks ago, had 6 adults in it, and room for more I think. More than enough room.

What about suitcases for those 6 people?

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Post by grigjd3 »

baddox wrote: post #228
H1Supreme wrote: post #144

Hopefully they make a version that isn't absolutely gigantic. I've wanted a basic, no-frills 4x4 pickup truck with a 6 foot bed for years now. Problem is, they're all gigantic. And, they all have back seats! Ford released a new Ranger, which is nearly large as everything else out there. In the late 80's / early 90's there were all types of small trucks on the road (including the ranger). Now, there's zero options in…

Why do you want a smaller truck? Is it just to make parking easier? My impression is that the reason the compact truck mostly died off (or got larger) is that the fuel economy of the larger vehicles improved to the point that the smaller trucks had little advantage.

Smaller trucks used to be far more affordable while still having the utility. If you're not shuffling a family around, this can be helpful.

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Post by SECProto »

tomcam wrote: post #237
SECProto wrote: post #152

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> I just learned that the term "redneck" actually comes from an old coal miner union strike that showed solidarity by using red kerchiefs hanging around their necks. Curious, I reasearched this. While that was indeed one use of the term (especially re: the West Virginia mine war in 1921), the etymology for the term as we use it is from 1900ish, 20 years earlier. And it refers, more generally, to farmers and working c…

> Stereotyping rural or working class or poor people using the term "redneck" is bad in its own right Much of my family is made up of these people. And to a person they call themselves… rednecks.

And do these relatives say to urban snobs, "Please, I want you to dismissively refer to me as a redneck"? Because context of usage is important, and changes meaning.

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Post by xxpor »

strait wrote: post #83
xxpor wrote: post #13

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There's no reason why pickup trucks need to have the MASSIVE flat grills they do today, other than aesthetic preferences. They're a disaster aerodynamically as well as for pedestrian safety. Obviously there's a lot more to it (like the bed) but it's a start.

I think you're referring to the massive grill guards on the front of many pickups. Are you saying "no reason other than aesthetic preferences" because you feel like it? Deer at night are a major hazard in much of the land. I hit a small one at night a few weeks ago in central Texas and the dead center impact managed to destroy the chintzy plastic grill in my car and buckle the radiator. I was lucky at that. I was on…

You know how to avoid hitting deer at night? Not driving 50 on a rural road with no street lights.

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Post by spectrum1234 »

tikhonj wrote: post #104
make3 wrote: post #28

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I can't believe that pickups are the three most sold models in the US. That's really insane. https://www.businessinsider.com/best-selling-cars-and-trucks...

I believe pickup trucks make up <20% of total car sales, but there are fewer models to choose from compared to sedans or crossovers, so the most popular pickup models get a disproportionate amount of sales.

This. Very misleading without this.

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Post by EpicEng »

hannasanarion wrote: post #125
EpicEng wrote: post #108

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And best of all, electricity just produces itself!

No, but a central power generator can produce energy far more cheaply and efficiently than a consumer gas engine optimized for mobility.

My point was that you should be comparing production and consumption directly. Of course electric is better, we wouldn't have EV's otherwise.

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Post by EADGBE »

amyjess wrote: post #225
Symbiote wrote: post #223

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In England "Chelsea tractor" means a jeep-like vehicle that never leaves paved roads. Chelsea is a very fancy area of London. The kind of place Prince Harry went to party.

I suppose the equivalent US term is "mall crawler".

Perhaps in the late-nineties.

Do we even have malls anymore?

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Post by EADGBE »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #123
SECProto wrote: post #99

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> But everyone shitting on Texans for owning trucks is crazy I didnt see anyone do that. I saw someone on a website complain about the price of gas to fill their truck, and someone else ask them if they considered driving something other than a truck. (honestly, "do you NEED the truck?" is a very good question. I drive a Yaris to construction sites. Wouldn't work for every job, but everyone else in my position drives…

There is definitely some shitting going on. It’s the same argument people make when they say people buy Apple products because they are a status symbol. And honestly, NEED is a dumb question. You can ask do you NEED just about anything. No, it’s not strictly a need, and neither is anything else nerds regularly spend their money on. All of what we buy lands somewhere on a spectrum of Need-Convenient-Frivolous, and peo…

Shitting-on always happens here when pickups are brought up.

Silicon Valley - I mean HN - won't know what to do with itself when most trucks go electric.

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