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'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Please no. A hydraulic hybrid approach would be so much more appropriate. https://www.epa.gov/cati/hydraulic-hybrid-vehicles

It seemed like they might be considering multiple other options for the F-Series, so you may not be out of luck (yet?) They've previously mentioned doing a plug-in hybrid version. I'm sure this won't be the first we hear of this.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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In Texas, can confirm. It's also crazy how much they spend on them. Pretty much a second mortgage for a lot of people based on income.. Can fit a lot in my hatchback and would just do what they do in New Zealand on the odd occasion I need more; rent a truck or van for the day.

Also in Texas, can also confirm. My coworker dropped the phrase "Texas Cadillac" the other day. Couldn't cringe hard enough. I hope to be able to afford an electric car for my next car purchase - for now, just a tiny Mazda stick-shift. Kinda having second thoughts after reading that comment about battery production though...

> "Texas Cadillac" Also known as the redneck cadillac.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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>>...the environment will definitely appreciate the electrified... Nobody is concerned about the countries (e.g. Bolivia) involved to extract the materials needed for the batteries => this might kill them (on one hand I agree saying "they should be able to care for themselves", but on the other hand there are gigantic interests at play which will put huge pressure on their governments/politicians) => whoever buys a b…

Any transition on this scale is going to have casualties, it's pretty much moot. If you have a less harmful solution than EVs to transitioning to fossil-fuel-free transportation I hear it's quite a lucrative opportunity.

I do agree with your statement in general, but consumers are supposed to care, at least a little bit.

In my personal case I did invest something into a cobalt mine in Idaho because they're doing everything right from my point of view - but I agree that this might not be a selling point if people do not become aware of what's happening (as well far away).

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Not the OP, but I've recently had several similar discussions with friends/family about trucks when I bought my Tesla. I live in Tennessee, a popular truck area. They claimed to like trucks for the convenience. Being able to throw stuff in the back and not have to think about whether it will fit in a car. While I do understand this advantage, it would only help me 2-3 times a year, and I aim to optimize for the 95% o…

I disliked pickup trucks for their size and fuel consumption until I owned a house and got heavily into gardening. Home maintenance and significant garden activity are made waaaaay easier by having a truck [or big van, I guess] available. That said, I still don't personally own a truck, borrowing them as needed. An all-electric model of good quality would be pretty tempting to me.

I rent trailers from U-Haul for that, it's only $15/day.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Rivian is the much needed kick in the nuts. When it turn out to be a viable truck and not just vaporware with lofty promises, people took note. I am by no means a truck or suv type guy but the idea of full electric one is very intriguing, if only I had the space. I can imagine the allure of great low end torque, improved storage capacity and the fuel savings for the more leisurely drivers, who don't need to tow 10 to…

> Upstarts seem to be poised to eat their cake.

Probably not. I think Volkswagen will be the biggest producer of battery electric vehicles within the next 3 years. VW is also talking about licensing their MEB electric car platform to Ford (though not necessarily for this F-150).

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This would have been amazing for when I lived in a small town in the subarctic. My truck was always useful for things like dump runs or picking up lumber etc. But the town was 20 km end-to-end so I would rarely drive more than 10 km at a time. Of course you'd need a second car or truck for longer trips, but everybody has more than one car in a rural area anyways.

Completely flips the environmental option that many chose where you drive a Prius to work and a truck long haul, to the other way around.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Not the OP, but I've recently had several similar discussions with friends/family about trucks when I bought my Tesla. I live in Tennessee, a popular truck area. They claimed to like trucks for the convenience. Being able to throw stuff in the back and not have to think about whether it will fit in a car. While I do understand this advantage, it would only help me 2-3 times a year, and I aim to optimize for the 95% o…

I like light trucks because they are for people who plow snow, carry bricks, lumber, cinder blocks, lawn mowing equipment, hogs, chickens, bails of hay, etc. in all weather over all roads and even no roads. E.g., there is good ground clearance for charging through snow, over rough ground, jumping curbs, etc. The suspensions are stiff, rugged, and long lasting, can take bad bumps and keep going with no damage. The lig…

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