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> "That being said, the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and their local branches are the definition of a cartel." NAR was actually investigated by the federal government (FTC i think? ), who concluded much the same, but lobbying buried the report and nothing came of it. MLS's maintain power by strictly controlling access to information. they have the most up-to-date and the most detailed information about prop…
Part of the problem is that most realtors want it that way. I live in Austin, and the push for a few years now has been to have a "silent market" where a buyer picks a "full service" realtor (AKA full commission), and gets a week or so jump on properties being listed in the MLS. This gives them a better chance to get the property before the MLS hordes descend and start bidding it up. The part I've never understood is…
Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commissions will fail (2012)
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Re: Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commissions will fail (2012)
#182Over the last two years I've bought a couple of properties and I see the value of realtors as professional negotiators and experts on real estate laws and contracts. That being said, the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and their local branches are the definition of a cartel. My parents owned a real estate agency when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. Back then, the cost of selling and marketing real estate…
Those who are persistent can always eventually find someone willing to sell their property for 3%. That isn't some online discount scam, that's a local realtor with local billboard ads, regular newspaper inserts, and a respectable web presence who is will to take half to do this job. Maybe you're in a hurry, maybe you like gold-plating, maybe you have to use your sister-in-law as a realtor, but if none of those circu…
Re: Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commissions will fail (2012)
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "That being said, the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and their local branches are the definition of a cartel." NAR was actually investigated by the federal government (FTC i think? ), who concluded much the same, but lobbying buried the report and nothing came of it. MLS's maintain power by strictly controlling access to information. they have the most up-to-date and the most detailed information about prop…
Part of the problem is that most realtors want it that way. I live in Austin, and the push for a few years now has been to have a "silent market" where a buyer picks a "full service" realtor (AKA full commission), and gets a week or so jump on properties being listed in the MLS. This gives them a better chance to get the property before the MLS hordes descend and start bidding it up. The part I've never understood is…
Re: Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commissions will fail (2012)
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I fail to see how they are overpaid. If someone sells 4 houses per year for 1M for 1.5% fee, that's only $60k per year. That sounds like a mediocre income in markets where houses even go for 1M. I am using numbers for the Bay Area that I have heard of. Maybe other markets are different.
What realtors are you using that only charge 1.5%? It was 3% each to the seller's and buyer's agent last time I moved. They do end up not being too rich on an annual pay basis where I live because the number of realtors actively working adjusts to the volume and pricing.
Re: Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commissions will fail (2012)
#185Over the last two years I've bought a couple of properties and I see the value of realtors as professional negotiators and experts on real estate laws and contracts. That being said, the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and their local branches are the definition of a cartel. My parents owned a real estate agency when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. Back then, the cost of selling and marketing real estate…
What about services like redfin? They advertise their fee at only 2%.
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Well its a pyramid scheme like many of the state licensed businesses. The low level agents have to work for a broker who soaks up the majority of the commission. Only after being an indentured slave for a few years do they get the "privilege" of themselves becoming a broker. The problem is that once that happens no one will hire you, so your on your own for finding clients/advertising/etc. That takes capital most low…
Sounds like software engineering today.
Re: Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commissions will fail (2012)
#187Over the last two years I've bought a couple of properties and I see the value of realtors as professional negotiators and experts on real estate laws and contracts. That being said, the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and their local branches are the definition of a cartel. My parents owned a real estate agency when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. Back then, the cost of selling and marketing real estate…
Wow, in the UK it is about 1 - 2%.
Re: Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commissions will fail (2012)
#188Yeah and startups that tried to disrupt filing taxes failed... Turbotax has kept me from paying an accountant a commission to do my taxes for years. Someone will figure out how to streamline the process online.
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#189I've bought and sold on separate occasions through Redfin and saw no difference between their service for 1% and my previous transactions with a traditional realtor for 5%. They both took me around to see properties, provided neighborhood and property insights, acted as my negotiating proxy, and guided the closing process. I don't understand how Redfin can charge so little, but as it stands today I wouldn't dream of…
Redfin charges 1% for selling the house. They still pay 3% to the buyer's broker. The total fee is therefore 4%, versus the normal 6%, where both sides get 3%.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are free to get a buyers agent that does represent you. In that case, the buyer’s agent and seller’s agent split the cost.
I still don't understand this mechanism... the buying agent takes his fee as a percentage of the total house price? Doesn't this mean that both the selling and buying agents are incentivized to drive up the price?
Freakonomics talks about this all of the time.
http://freakonomics.com/2008/02/26/real-estate-agents-revisi...