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Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Pigeons hardly need protecting. They are nuisance animals in most areas.

They become a nuisance when people try to domesticate that. Which is why there are laws against doing so.

This is probably the real motivation, not concern for the wildness of the birds. Neighbors thinking you harbor disease and so on.

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I'm going to say something that people probably won't want to hear, but I hope to justify it and convince others of it as well. Don't feed wild animals. The difference between a pet, and a wild animal is that a pet owner takes responsibility for the wellbeing and actions of a pet. Feeding wild animals is detrimental to their wellbeing. They become accustomed to people, and not all people are nice to animals. You won'…

I thought it was quite common to see signs up telling people not to feed wild animals, particularly in very populated areas like city parks? I'm guessing it is fairly common knowledge already and not that unpopular of a statement for you to say. With that said, it is fun to feed animals, so I can understand the appeal. We used to take loaves of stale bread and feed the ducks down by the lake growing up.

There are those signs.

There's also plenty of advice from wildlife experts not to feed wild animals. The exception being that it's ok to have a garden which contains food providing trees/shrubs/etc.

But people get offended when you tell them to stop doing it - "Oh, it's no harm, it's just a bit of fun".

You get a similar response when you tell people they're assholes for letting their cats roam - despite cats being massive killers of wildlife.

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It appears so. What a filthy guy. Don't read if you don't have the stomach for it https://blog.timesunion.com/animalrights/descartes-and-anima... Gary Francione (Introduction to Animal Rights): “Descartes and his followers performed experiments in which they nailed animals by their paws onto boards and cut them open to reveal their beating hearts. They burned, scalded, and mutilated animals in every conceivable manne…

Curses omitted from this comment. If you would believe some materialists, we're ALL just biological machines with illusory feelings, though...

See, I'm ok with that. That doesn't mean your feelings and the feelings of others don't matter.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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When I was a child, a school teacher showed me this hoax video of flying penguins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4 . Unfortunately, for a brief period of my childhood, I was under the assumption that penguins could indeed fly. By the time I had uncovered my teacher's subterfuge, I had already made a fool of myself by publicly positing that such penguins existed. Admittedly, my teacher was only playing a p…

I think they posted on March 31st for April 1st? (April fool's day?). Just the fact that it's an advertisement for BBC.

Correct, the BBC has a long tradition of presenting a fake documentary clip on April Fool's day. Not sure if it was the first one, but you can find a very old BBC April 1st clip on the "traditional yearly harvesting of spaghetti", where you see villagers pick fresh and ripe spaghetti from the spaghetti trees, carefully laying them in the baskets they carry...

Not sure if this is the best clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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I'm going to say something that people probably won't want to hear, but I hope to justify it and convince others of it as well. Don't feed wild animals. The difference between a pet, and a wild animal is that a pet owner takes responsibility for the wellbeing and actions of a pet. Feeding wild animals is detrimental to their wellbeing. They become accustomed to people, and not all people are nice to animals. You won'…

I thought it was quite common to see signs up telling people not to feed wild animals, particularly in very populated areas like city parks? I'm guessing it is fairly common knowledge already and not that unpopular of a statement for you to say. With that said, it is fun to feed animals, so I can understand the appeal. We used to take loaves of stale bread and feed the ducks down by the lake growing up.

The sign doesn’t communicate why it’s bad. As is clear from my comment I think a lot of context matters. Also, some people don’t give a shit.

I was a bit defensive because I replied directly to a comment about someone who feeds wild animals and I wanted to avoid being accusatory and confrontational while still getting a point across.

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Even gun hunting feels too sadistic to me. If you think it's sadistic to hunt with the stopping power (and typically quicker death) of a rifle, you're not going to like bow hunting much.

No it's the overwhelming ease of killing a gun offers.

What of it? If hunting is actually utilitarian (i.e. for food), there's no ethical issue here. How difficult it is only matters if hunting is a sport, but that's exactly the ethically dubious part of it.

So even in that sense, using a bow is more "sadistic", since it amounts to causing suffering to a living being for the sake of more challenging entertainment for oneself.

(And, of course, a bow would be a lot more painful to the animal, even in the best case of a non-botched shot.)

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It appears so. What a filthy guy. Don't read if you don't have the stomach for it https://blog.timesunion.com/animalrights/descartes-and-anima... Gary Francione (Introduction to Animal Rights): “Descartes and his followers performed experiments in which they nailed animals by their paws onto boards and cut them open to reveal their beating hearts. They burned, scalded, and mutilated animals in every conceivable manne…

Curses omitted from this comment. If you would believe some materialists, we're ALL just biological machines with illusory feelings, though...

Funny thing is, Descartes was approaching it from literally the exact opposite angle. To him, the soul was all the difference between real pain and "mechanical reaction".

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Looking at my grandparents' generation, who had to do just that, I wouldn't count on it.

My parents both grew up on farms where they slaughtered their own animals. They ate meat maybe once a week or less. So at a minimum meat consumption would go down.

I suspect the reason why they ate meat rarely was because it was expensive (even when it's your animal, it still has a cost), not because they were squeamish about it.

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It's a bit silly to compare killing a plant to killing something with a central nervous system. Plants don't think or feel. Birds and mammals certainly do.

"However, there is evidence that plants react to damage by emitting chemicals or gases that communicate discomfort or stress and that they somehow adapt to minimize this discomfort."

Plants don't have a central nervous system that can experience discomfort or stress. The terms are used as an analogy. My laptops emits heat when it is "stressed" as well.

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> It's technically illegal to have a wild animal as a pet in Brazil, as officials want to ensure vulnerable creatures don't get separated from their families and that they can be reintroduced into the wild after injury. Same where I am. I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? For example, I give peanuts to the wild squirrels around my house. This is not illegal where I live. It is illegal, however, to keep a w…

I'm going to say something that people probably won't want to hear, but I hope to justify it and convince others of it as well. Don't feed wild animals. The difference between a pet, and a wild animal is that a pet owner takes responsibility for the wellbeing and actions of a pet. Feeding wild animals is detrimental to their wellbeing. They become accustomed to people, and not all people are nice to animals. You won'…

Yes. Don’t ignore signs and guidance from local wildlife authorities.

Some animals can really fuck you up. Or you might be messing with a protected species.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/agro-kangaroos-addict...

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