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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by mrguyorama »

softawre wrote: post #215
sergiosgc wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/

Pixel has no bloatware.

My Pixel came preinstalled with at least three of Google's multitude of chat applications.

If that's not bloatware then I don't know what is

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by maxxxxx »

simulate wrote: post #161
AlexandrB wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Like the iPhones, phones distributed by Google, starting with the Google Phone G1 in 2008, and continuing to the Nexus phones and today's current Pixel phones (Pixel 1, 2, and 3), have never had crapware.

My Moto G also has a pretty basic Android without crapware other than a ton of Google Play apps.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by syntaxing »

Steltek wrote: post #203
syntaxing wrote: post #77

This kind of crap is why I always buy phones that have stock Android. I have been a long time Nexus customer but after Google dropped the line I went for the Essential Phone during the $250 sale. Easily one of the best phone with stock Android .

The reviews of the Essential PH-1 were hilarious in this regard. People were annoyed that they had to install "obvious" apps for their Essential that every other manufacturer forcibly included.

Yeah, I'm not sure why the PH-1 didn't take off. 128 GB storage, Snapdragon 835, and ceramic backing is amazing for less than $300 after tax. The only "downside" is the non-OLED screen, weird reception for T-mobile, and subpar camera app (which the pixel 3 port fixes). The screen is still great and vibrant though.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by laumars »

vengefulduck wrote: post #94
laumars wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't delete accounts. Only deactivate them. But if you ever log in again it all comes back up as it was before you deactivated it, This was a huge problem for my wife because her deactivated account got hacked and then myself and all of her friends and family started getting spam.

You can delete it you just have to jump through some hoops: https://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674/

Is that a new thing? I didn’t see that option when we looked and I seem to recall it was a common complaint at that time too. I wonder if that’s come about because of GDPR?

Anyhow, it’s handy to know it is there so thank you.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by JoshTriplett »

Someone1234 wrote: post #251
simulate wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the iPhones, phones distributed by Google, starting with the Google Phone G1 in 2008, and continuing to the Nexus phones and today's current Pixel phones (Pixel 1, 2, and 3), have never had crapware.

That isn't really accurate, you're just defining "crapware" is such a way so that Google's apps don't qualify. That's a double standard. Google Drive, Gmail, Google Photos, Play Music, Play Movies, Play Games, Play Books, Duo, Google+, and YouTube could all be called as crapware since they aren't required for core phone functions (and upsell for-profit services). I guess it is somewhat a discussion what we mean by "c…

You can remove all of the Google apps, though. (You can't remove the storage space they take up on the phone's ROM, as they ship on the stock device so that they don't need a download at setup time, but you can completely disable them so that they're treated as not installed.)

Also, these days, people consider photos, music, videos, email, and similar to be core phone functions; frankly, many people use them more often than they make phonecalls.

(Personally, I disable around half of those apps, along with Chrome.)

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by macNchz »

iamben wrote: post #136

I feel like Facebook is getting more and more desperate. There have been times I've loved it, but in the last year or two I've dialled back my usage to almost nothing. Now I get regular emails / (and when I log in a whole load of) red dot notifications - both things that used to be alerts about just _ME_ - that say things like "[friend name] just posted". With an undeletable app, I wonder how far away we are from som…

I kind of casually fell off of using facebook like 5 years ago–it just kind of slowly lost my interest. Those useless notifications–via push, sms and email–wound up prompting me to unsub from all facebook communications and ultimately delete the app.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by MadWombat »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #31

I hate to be one of "those people" but I logged out of Facebook on all of my devices on New Year's Eve and haven't been back since. I used to check the site multiple times per day. I thought I'd miss out on a few groups but to be honest the people I know from those groups IRL keep me updated on the rare important announcement - ie a couple of upcoming events. I haven't missed it at all. Full Disclosure: I do still ha…

shrug, I wish I could do that. But for 99% of all my friends and family members Facebook is the social network of choice. All events are planned and organized on it, all the personal news and status changes are posted on it, most of person to person communications are using the messenger, etc. My brother has deleted his account on several occasions, but he keeps having to re-create it simply because he doesn't want to get cut off from all the family communication.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by simulate »

Someone1234 wrote: post #251
simulate wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the iPhones, phones distributed by Google, starting with the Google Phone G1 in 2008, and continuing to the Nexus phones and today's current Pixel phones (Pixel 1, 2, and 3), have never had crapware.

That isn't really accurate, you're just defining "crapware" is such a way so that Google's apps don't qualify. That's a double standard. Google Drive, Gmail, Google Photos, Play Music, Play Movies, Play Games, Play Books, Duo, Google+, and YouTube could all be called as crapware since they aren't required for core phone functions (and upsell for-profit services). I guess it is somewhat a discussion what we mean by "c…

This is identical to how all other phone OS vendors work where the OS vendor pre-installs apps as part of their ecosystem. If you consider them crapware, then there are no major mobile OS vendors who don't install crapware.

iPhone preinstalls 42 apps, not all of which can be easily deleted: App Store, Calculator, Calendar, Camera, Clock, Compass, Contacts, FaceTime, Files, Find My Friends, Find My iPhone, Game Center, Health, Home, iBooks, iCloud Drive, iMovie, iTunes Store, iTunes U, Keynote, Mail, Maps, Messages, Music, News, Notes, Numbers, Pages, Passbook, Phone, Photos, Podcasts, Reminders, Safari, Settings, Stocks, Tips, TV, Videos, Voice Memos, Wallet, Watch, Weather

Android comes with 29 preinstalled apps, and like iPhone some of them cannot be easily deleted: Android Pay, Calculator, Calendar, Camera, Chrome, Clock, Contacts, Docs, Downloads, Drive, Duo, Gmail, Google, Google+, Keep, Maps, Messages, News & Weather, Phone, Photos, Play Books, Play Games, Play Movies & TV, Play Music, Play Store, Settings, Sheets, Slides, YouTube

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by _x5tx »

After years of using android I just moved from my galaxy s8 to an iphone xs max, and I was surprised to see that apple allows to uninstall most of their apps. What I usually did on my former samsung was to disable the apps I didn't needed, it is not the same as uninstalling it but it does the job.
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