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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by slezyr »

RandomNewGuy wrote: post #97
wozmirek wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your experience with Android One? First time I hear about it but I'm intrigued, doesn't it come from Google anyway? So the "secure" claims are kind of empty?

I'm using a Xiaomi Mi A1 for some time now and so far so good. I was looking for a pure Android experience without all the crapware and custom UI's that come from any major phone brand and this is exactly what I got. Also, direct updates from Google for 2 years without interference from the brand (Xiaomi in this case). Which means I have security updates every month. I'm not going to buy anything that's not an Androi…

> Also, direct updates from Google for 2 years without interference from the brand (Xiaomi in this case). Which means I have security updates every month.

You got exactly NONE updates from google. "Android One" has a requirement for vendors to provide updates. All those updates were from xiaomi.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by simple_phrases »

RandomNewGuy wrote: post #97
wozmirek wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your experience with Android One? First time I hear about it but I'm intrigued, doesn't it come from Google anyway? So the "secure" claims are kind of empty?

I'm using a Xiaomi Mi A1 for some time now and so far so good. I was looking for a pure Android experience without all the crapware and custom UI's that come from any major phone brand and this is exactly what I got. Also, direct updates from Google for 2 years without interference from the brand (Xiaomi in this case). Which means I have security updates every month. I'm not going to buy anything that's not an Androi…

After doing research in order to buy a new phone, I find it strange that Xaomi products are being suggested as an alternative to vendor anti-privacy and bloat.

MIUI is baked in and you need to register an account with Xaomi if you want to unlock your bootloader and put, say, LineageOS on your phone. Xaomi has a bootloader lockout period on their phones, during which you must wait and use MIUI for a period until your bootloader unlocks. They've increased that period from what was once a couple of weeks, to over a month on new models. That's plenty of time for Xaomi to harvest your data.

Meanwhile, there are other phones that allow you to unlock your bootloader without a data harvesting period.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Steltek »

syntaxing wrote: post #77

This kind of crap is why I always buy phones that have stock Android. I have been a long time Nexus customer but after Google dropped the line I went for the Essential Phone during the $250 sale. Easily one of the best phone with stock Android .

The reviews of the Essential PH-1 were hilarious in this regard.

People were annoyed that they had to install "obvious" apps for their Essential that every other manufacturer forcibly included.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Kiro »

gambiting wrote: post #63
stevewodil wrote: post #56

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What about OnePlus?

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

For me it was the opposite, the removal of the obnoxious and ancient headphone jack was one of the reason I bought a 6T.

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Post by culot »

mariusmg wrote: post #144
AlexandrB wrote: post #116

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> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.

AT&T variants usually came with crapware. You could uninstall most/all of it though. AT&T Android phones are of course far worse though.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by gambiting »

Kiro wrote: post #204
gambiting wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

For me it was the opposite, the removal of the obnoxious and ancient headphone jack was one of the reason I bought a 6T.

I'm really curious why you think that. Obnoxious why? How?

And ancient = bad? Boy, do I have some bad news about power sockets you have at home.......

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by paulie_a »

zeusk wrote: post #87
paulie_a wrote: post #79

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If it isnt pure Android, and ships with apps you can't uninstall through normal means, it is crapware. They shouldn't be installed in the first place. And LinkedIn isn't crapware, it's shitware

Google+ and ancillary Google spyware must be installed by default for playstore compatibility test suite to pass. Is that pure android? Bloat? Crapware? Or just plain shit?

My pixel doesn't have google+ installed. But I can use the play store.

And I am not sure what spyware apps you are referring to.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Bahamut »

higginsc wrote: post #183
Bahamut wrote: post #132

While I like using FB, this is type of behavior by Android OEMs that largely drove me to the iPhone. The main reason I rooted my phone prior was to get rid of crappy apps I don't use from being on my screen. Around 4-5 years ago, Android phone manufacturers started locking down their phones more while not letting them be rooted. They didn't solve the problem of having undeleteable apps waste my time & space with clea…

I've been an iPhone user for a decade and am a huge Apple fanboy, but even with that bias, I have to say this is a load of crap. Apple has been adding loads of undeletable bloat since forever. they only really let you start deleting the Apple pre-installed apps very recently. I still have a folder on my devices called "iCrap."

There's a huge difference between Apple's built in apps and the third party apps doing who knows what background processing/data mining on phone usage. The effects on performance such as battery life is very noticeable.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Kiro »

gambiting wrote: post #206
Kiro wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it was the opposite, the removal of the obnoxious and ancient headphone jack was one of the reason I bought a 6T.

I'm really curious why you think that. Obnoxious why? How? And ancient = bad? Boy, do I have some bad news about power sockets you have at home.......

I want to embrace the future. The more phones to get rid of the headphone jack, the more headphone companies will realize they need to make wireless versions.
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