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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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post #21

Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.

Hypocrisy doesn't invalidate the article's criticisms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.

At least the Nexus phones I've had also never came with crap ware. This is yet another reason why I would only ever by a Android phone from Google. Of course the main reason are the longer update cycles that might even delay arrival of security updates. I really wish Google had gone the exact same route as Apple and only shipped Android phones themselves. To me the collaboration with random manufacturers also weakened the Nexus brand. I have zero brand loyalty to Samsung, LG or HTC. I wanted a Google phone. My iPhone doesn't say "Foxconn" on it, so why did my Nexus say "LG" and the next one "Samsung"?! I'm always surprised that these concerns apparently aren't shared by the market and people are happily buying Samsung phones with crap on it and unnecessary changes to Android that just result in getting updates super late.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

#154
post #11

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There's a setting I saw on Instagram about this where it will send you emails if you're inactive for too long. It's an entirely distinct setting from all other email spam. There was one setting on Instagram I would toggle, and come back two seconds later to find it retoggled, it was to suggest my account to other people to follow, I've managed to acquire like 20 follow requests from total strangers, I can't make it s…

I'm testing this hypothesis. I have not logged into Facebook for three months and am still getting daily emails with links to posts

What worked for me was to update my Facebook login email from my real email to my spam mailbox. Now, I don't care how much they spam me.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

#155
post #99

If a giant like Facebook had bought Match Group and Tinder, would it be possible for it to manipulate dating and thus breeding people up to statistically significant scale? I feel it like being "@" in somebody's Dwarf Fortress. World's so narcissistic.

What makes you think Match Group and Tinder are not already statistically matching people based on their algorithms? They are part of IAC and IAC is a giant publishing conglomerate based out of NYC.

Yikes! There's only hope they'll add some paid service where I can find love and hunt deer with a crossbow in special national park, wild way. Just like those two domains, wild and artificial, from Huxley's Brave New World.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.

Many Android phones don't have "crap" installed on them. This is a phone manufacturer issue and not an Android phone.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.

Windows 10 comes with crap even in Pro version these days (Candy Crush etc.), so it was just because nobody cared enough to create that crap for Windows Phone.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

#159
post #89

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I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/

This is awesome! I had no idea how to find the phones that have better OS support, so I was stuck with the Pixel line. Is this basically considered stock Android? Or is that yet another tier?

It's stock, but the options are not great and the hardware companies are not especially eager to put powerful phones on that platform

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

#160
post #119

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Im not sure they tell you all the apps that are preinstalled per carrier before you buy a phone. Ive never seen a list. You're not wrong though.

Well websites definitely don't list the trackers anywhere at all, let alone before you reach them.

Im also not paying to visit the website.
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