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Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guess I should say outside North American.

As far as I can think of, the number of retailers with significant worldwide operations is very small. Costco and Walmart both have about 20% of their operations outside of North America. Uniqlo is 40% Japan, 30% PRC, 30% elsewhere. No real others come to mind.

IKEA is the big one that springs to mind for me.

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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Ahh, I came to this thread far too late, but hopefully this won't be missed. In 1980 The Yankee Group (a tech consultancy) reached out to my dad to help them understand how Sears could respond to the growing tech phenomenon. For reasons too long to get into, Gates and my pops (a Canadian) knew each other and were even both covered in The Intelligent Machines Journal out of Palo Alto in the same issue during the waning days of the '70s.

So my father and these Yankees told Gates that Microsoft should meet with these clueless Sears guys, since they'd probably move a number of computers over the next couple years and it would be helpful for them to think "Computers? Microsoft." So he begrudgingly did.

In the meeting someone brought up investment and Gates said they could have 20% for $8m. You never know how all these things go. Sometimes someone you never heard of tells you something true and your relative position stops you from seeing it.

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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Sears had everything. Global supply chain, check. Top notch distribution operation, check. System and infrastructure to take orders and handling billing, check. Name recognition and established customer base, check. They threw it all away, ending catalog operations in 1993 a year before Amazon.com opened in 1994. They owned part of Prodigy in 1984! Yet somehow thought it was a better move to expand into bigger box re…

My childhood home was purchased in a kit from Sears in the early 1900's. Such an interesting and expansive catalog operation, and a model that's starting to come back around with modular homes from Blu and other companies offering kit homes 100 years later.

Had to throw in the 99PI link for anyone interested in learning more about Sears homes.

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-house-that-came-i...

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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Sears had everything. Global supply chain, check. Top notch distribution operation, check. System and infrastructure to take orders and handling billing, check. Name recognition and established customer base, check. They threw it all away, ending catalog operations in 1993 a year before Amazon.com opened in 1994. They owned part of Prodigy in 1984! Yet somehow thought it was a better move to expand into bigger box re…

I thought this as well until I heard a counter-point [0] which was very convincing. The reason Amazon is successful is not because you can shop online (from a catalog) and receive items in the mail. The reason Amazon is successful is because you can do those things and receive your items within two days. Before Prime existed, Amazon had very quick fulfillment, and after Prime two-day it became even better. The Sears…

Lol I paid for next day before the holidays and got my stuff 7 days late. Demanded and got refunded shipping.

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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I worked for a part of Emerson Electric that made Craftman tools for Sears. They were made in the USA and then in 1995 Sears cut the budget and gave the contract to some other company. I was downsized as a result.

They got Rigid tools at Home Depot that EE makes now. Should be just as good as the old Craftsman series.

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

#476

Ahh, I came to this thread far too late, but hopefully this won't be missed. In 1980 The Yankee Group (a tech consultancy) reached out to my dad to help them understand how Sears could respond to the growing tech phenomenon. For reasons too long to get into, Gates and my pops (a Canadian) knew each other and were even both covered in The Intelligent Machines Journal out of Palo Alto in the same issue during the wanin…

Yes, with hindsight a lot of things look ridiculous. Now go and tell such a story about a person offering an investment into their business of whom we don't know the future outcome yet...

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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Is that really a primary growth factor? I've never once acted on an Amazon recommendation, and it's always felt almost entirely useless - "you just bought a vacuum, here's 15 more vacuums just in case you're a vacuum-obsessed lunatic"

I would sacrifice so much karma for more upvotes for this

Worth it

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

#478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guess I should say outside North American.

As far as I can think of, the number of retailers with significant worldwide operations is very small. Costco and Walmart both have about 20% of their operations outside of North America. Uniqlo is 40% Japan, 30% PRC, 30% elsewhere. No real others come to mind.

Fair point.

Not sure Uniqlo should count though, lots of similar brands in fashion have massive global operation (H&M etc.).

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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I had some involvement with sears holding back in 2006-2008, and I remember thinking why were they selling all these clothes? Who the F buys clothes at sears?? It’s going to die of irrelevance. Cut it down to the Kenmore / craftsman brands that actually are unmatched by anything at target, Walmart, or Amazon, and build an awesome services biz supporting.

My biggest surprise is they managed to survive this long. At some point I realized it was a money grab by the CEO, lose money today, get valuable real estate for years to come.

Re: Sears has another chance to avoid closing down

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Ahh, I came to this thread far too late, but hopefully this won't be missed. In 1980 The Yankee Group (a tech consultancy) reached out to my dad to help them understand how Sears could respond to the growing tech phenomenon. For reasons too long to get into, Gates and my pops (a Canadian) knew each other and were even both covered in The Intelligent Machines Journal out of Palo Alto in the same issue during the wanin…

Haha, that's interesting to hear.

So if Sears invested in Microsoft in 1980, Sears of today could've been like Yahoo, whose investment in Alibaba kept Yahoo afloat a few more years but ultimately continued down the downward spiral?

I gather that the few people at Sears who were aware of the investment invite from Bill Gates may not even be alive, considering it was 39 years ago.

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