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$80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Let's break it down. 1) Release a bunch of free apps. 2) Take the holiday season - the single month with the highest sales and traffic. 3) Round it up a little bit to get to $80K a month. 4) Find as many people as you can who're willing to believe the story. 5) Don't lie - just let people extrapolate - Say $80K in a month and let people assume that means $80K per month. Their website is the classic long form sales le…

Great analysis. You are absolutely right.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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post #22

Here's a link to the e-book they wrote and mentioned in the interview: http://www.freetheapps.com/create-iphone-apps/ It makes sense that they seemed somewhat reserved at certain points of the interview, they don't want to give away too much and make their e-book less useful.

What a scam.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I recall correctly, in previous interviews Andrew has talked about running background checks and verifications on reported incomes. Overall I think he's a great interviewer.

Thanks Kranner. When I interview someone who wasn't referred by someone I know or when I'm unsure of the numbers before an interview, I often ask them to log into their affiliate or paypal or bank account to show me activity using Skype's desktop share. Or I ask for their accountant to confirm their numbers. Or I ask to see their tax returns. I always keep what I see private. In this case, I didn't need to do that be…

"and elance confirmed that." Of course they outsourced everything, how else would they make the apps? The point is, they are using the proof of the apps to tell their "get rich" story, which is all clearly a lie.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks Kranner. When I interview someone who wasn't referred by someone I know or when I'm unsure of the numbers before an interview, I often ask them to log into their affiliate or paypal or bank account to show me activity using Skype's desktop share. Or I ask for their accountant to confirm their numbers. Or I ask to see their tax returns. I always keep what I see private. In this case, I didn't need to do that be…

Just to correct the impression. I was calling the interviewee's slimy for their sales page tactics. My opinion of you (already low) dropped through association. I understand you're trying to keep up the pace, but sometimes the right thing to do is give up quantity for quality.

I agree. The right thing to do would be to take down this video until the revenue has been verified by you.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you go to the freetheapps site it is _so_ used-car salesman. When you go to leave the page it has a Javascript popup that begs you to stay with yes/no dialog. My already very low view of Andrew Warner just got even lower. slimy get-rich-quick guys give me the shivers.

As mentioned, his primary interest here was that the guys had outsourced every aspect of creating the apps and had created a business doing it. Sure it may not be the most high quality business but it's still interesting to look at by virtue of the success.

How do you know it was successful?

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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post #114

Let's break it down. 1) Release a bunch of free apps. 2) Take the holiday season - the single month with the highest sales and traffic. 3) Round it up a little bit to get to $80K a month. 4) Find as many people as you can who're willing to believe the story. 5) Don't lie - just let people extrapolate - Say $80K in a month and let people assume that means $80K per month. Their website is the classic long form sales le…

Right, but as it turns out they didn't just make $80,000 in a month. They made ~$800,000 over a year and a half, and clearly said they have had dud apps as well

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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I'm a little surprised at the relatively negative responses on this. Is this story not consistent with hacker culture and working smarter, not harder? [Pointing out to a bunch of programmers they can be outsourced is unlikely to be well received though]. The execution and success of their apps was brilliant. Sure they lose marks for immaturity, which is even more of an achievement, and their contribution low-quality apps which now plague the internet.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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post #27

This sounds a bit too good to be true. How many ad impressions add up to $80,000 in a month? What is that in user hours per month for 12 or so apps? I'd be fascinated to see the financial statements, I bet we never will

It's not as outrageous as you think. Although the first month we hit big numbers we were VERY VERY surprised. Check out the paper toss guys that make 500K a month with just 5 free apps!!! http://www.develop-online.net/news/36155/Paper-Toss-dev-make... Now THAT'S something. We're not even close to that!

Why do you keep showing their numbers? Why not some of your own?
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