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Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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% of people who will actually leave the US? I'd wager near 0.

We left. Three years ago, for Spain. We're not planning on returning, barring some sort of international catastrophe.

Would you mind sharing some of your experience (to whatever level you're comfortable with)?

I actually have spanish citizenship as well as my US one, and have considered moving there (temporarily or permanently) to be closer to family a couple of times.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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A truly incredible statistic: “ 40% of women younger than 30 would like to leave the U.S. ” That says a lot about the extent to which Trump has alienated young women.

40% is just ridiculous. As we've seen in past US presidential elections, the vast majority of Americans who claim they want to move out of the country will not actually do it. Moving to a major metropolitan area within the US that aligns with their values is much easier.

Wanting to do something never results in 100% conversion for anything, let alone for something as difficult as migration. "But they don't follow through!" is a lazy take.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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The reduction in tax is still substantial.

How is there any reduction in tax if expats must still pay US taxes?

There is foreign earned income exclusion. Which stops at $100K but this is still a lot for many people.

I’m not American so it’s not my problem, but it’s what I hear from other tax exiles.

My parents are American but given the choice for me to become American I declined due to the whole tax issue.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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post #16

Ultimately this indicates that people aren’t satisfied with the returns on taxation. I’m all for supporting a government that supports the people. From my perspective we don’t have this and haven’t had it for some time. Other developed nations have better infrastructure, better social support system, near free higher education, free at point of contact healthcare systems. What we get in the U.S. is the most advanced…

I’m a tax exile. It has been the best decision I have ever made. I now save 10x more money each year. More and more Americans are turning up every year doing the same thing. I love America but the idea of paying American taxes is just too much from a fiscal, moral, ideological point of view.

Where? Somewhere with decent jobs or do you need a remote gig?

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

#185
post #16

Ultimately this indicates that people aren’t satisfied with the returns on taxation. I’m all for supporting a government that supports the people. From my perspective we don’t have this and haven’t had it for some time. Other developed nations have better infrastructure, better social support system, near free higher education, free at point of contact healthcare systems. What we get in the U.S. is the most advanced…

I can't help but feel that is misguided because it sounds like the only solution is to lower taxes and make people happy. From my experience some of the reasons people in my circle have left / wish to leave the US are the following: - Race relations have become more divisive. If you speak spanish in certain parts of the country you are outright asked to provide proof of citizenship as though you are a second class ci…

I've seen reasons listed and also:

- Health Care. Before a few years ago, it was possible to be completely rejected by all carriers and not be able to buy it at any price. Even with insurance, a major illness or chronic condition can cost hundreds of thousands or even millions and wipe out a lifetime of savings.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

#186

This seems like a sensational title. The basic gist of the article is that while the US in inline with the rest of the world, there is a significant uptick in younger women who say they would like to leave since Trump.

downvotes but no responses?

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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post #38

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Somehow I doubt that most people are thinking of where they want to live in terms of "returns on taxation"

Maybe not directly, but that's the cause. Most people want to live somewhere clean, with low crime, good infrastructure, and jobs. Most cities have tax-funded programs for all of those things. If they aren't on par, then there's two culprits: a) not enough tax dollars, b) taxes aren't being used effectively. Personally, I think it's almost always the latter. You can look at the historical effectiveness of most progra…

There are other things that governments do besides tax and spend. Things like individual and civil rights and freedoms, etc.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

#188
post #13

% of people who will actually leave the US? I'd wager near 0.

Outside a few job categories like tech emigration is quite difficult so I also expect the actual number to be quite low. A lot of people may also realize that other countries also have a lot of problems. The US is a pretty good place to live. This is coming.from.a German who lives in the US and is generally quite critical of this country.

>Outside a few job categories like tech emigration is quite difficult

This is the flip side of the whole "I'd like to leave the US" movement that is hardly ever talked about. A lot of people who express these desires to leave and gain citizenship elsewhere simply do not have the credentials to do so.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

#189

I have a genuine question for people who want to leave the US because of Trump: Is your life actually any different since he's been elected (minus constant media coverage)? I have to say, mine isn't at all. He's barely accomplished anything that's had an impact on our lives yet people are still so upset about him becoming president that they want to move to another country. Can anyone give concrete examples of his po…

I wanted to leave the US well before Trump. He's not the disease. He's just the most visible symptom.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

much of the defense spending is hidden in other areas: like Dept of energy, dept of veteran affairs, homeland security, etc. So it's a lot bigger than it looks.

Where could I see numbers on this?

Isn’t the CIA, NSA, National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard (which is not part of the Pentagon), etc. all part of national defense? You can look up the public portion of their budgets online. The VA should be counted too since it’s a cost of national defense.
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