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Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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Post by rootusrootus »

jedmeyers wrote: post #10
walrus01 wrote: post #3

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se...

Wait. You don’t just walk across the border, you have to file an application and have it approved to live in Canada? Is this how a progressive nation should behave?

IIRC it's pretty common to walk across the border and then present yourself to immigration and ask for asylum. Assuming that is your only probable immigration method, since otherwise it's reputedly quite difficult to gain approval.

Also, Canada handles the whole process a bit more humanely than the United States does.

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Post by tjr225 »

I like America. I find its people, at least offline, to be warm and generous. I love the outdoors and the massive breadth of natural beauty in this country.

However, it is very painful to me that part of my income gets funneled into the pockets of mass murderers. If I were to choose to leave this country it would have to be to some place that at the very least, spends less of my income on endless war. It's a real shame there is basically no peace movement anymore.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

jedmeyers wrote: post #10
walrus01 wrote: post #3

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se...

Wait. You don’t just walk across the border, you have to file an application and have it approved to live in Canada? Is this how a progressive nation should behave?

I guess that depends if you're a member of a desperate group of poor, or someone browsing Hacker News on a Monday morning.

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Post by linsistine »

Unrelated to the reason that was listed in the article, but I've spoken to numerous people over the last couple of years who've expressed they would like to leave due to the US's culture.

Although this is a beautiful, diverse, and free country (compared to the rest of the world), everything in the US revolves around work and money.

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Post by jedmeyers »

skh wrote: post #16

Ultimately this indicates that people aren’t satisfied with the returns on taxation. I’m all for supporting a government that supports the people. From my perspective we don’t have this and haven’t had it for some time. Other developed nations have better infrastructure, better social support system, near free higher education, free at point of contact healthcare systems. What we get in the U.S. is the most advanced…

> What we get in the U.S. is the most advanced warfare system ever.

You get this in Canada as well, they just don’t pay for it - US taxpayers do.

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Post by wyldfire »

jedmeyers wrote: post #10
walrus01 wrote: post #3

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se...

Wait. You don’t just walk across the border, you have to file an application and have it approved to live in Canada? Is this how a progressive nation should behave?

This argument is not genuine. US has a legal immigration requiring much the same process as Canada. If you end up crossing into Canada outside of a port of entry, you can request asylum from the Canadian border patrol just like you can in the US.

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Post by qbz »

whatshisface wrote: post #15

I see that people are assuming that the ones who want to leave do so because they feel the government is insufficiently liberal. The truth is, I have met some people who wish they could leave to go somewhere more conservative. I think that everyone would want to leave the US if somewhere out there was a utopia that exactly implemented their political and social views. The main thing that tamps down that desire is the…

>The truth is, I have met some people who wish they could leave to go somewhere more conservative.

That sounds weird. Where are they going to move to? There are only a few select places in the world with freedom of speech, which seems like a very necessary value to be a conservative in the current times.

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Post by wil421 »

>These results are based on telephone interviews with approximately 1,000 adults per year, aged 15 and older, conducted in the U.S.

They only asked 1,000 adults via phone calls? Pretty small survey but I’m not a statistician.

Edit: Downvoters. Please comment. Was the survey larger? Is 1,000 a large enough sample size to make conclusions about the whole US? This is HN please engage.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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Post by jedmeyers »

wyldfire wrote: post #26
jedmeyers wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait. You don’t just walk across the border, you have to file an application and have it approved to live in Canada? Is this how a progressive nation should behave?

This argument is not genuine. US has a legal immigration requiring much the same process as Canada. If you end up crossing into Canada outside of a port of entry, you can request asylum from the Canadian border patrol just like you can in the US.

Of course you can apply but does a random person living in the US has enough grounds to receive an asylum in Canada?
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