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Re: Tree Style Tabs

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They did a «pilot» experiment recently but apparently decided it’s not important enough. That code is available as another extension (don’t recall the name, perhaps tabcenter).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/tab-center-re...

As far as I can tell, this add-on doesn't let you hide the top tab bar.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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The one thing I don't like from extensions like this is that the inner window ends up in a non-standard width/height and I can't help but think how many sites could track me across domains just by checking for that.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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I like this, but I visualized it differently. I assumed the tree style tab bar could be placed horizontally and each tab could be a drop down tree from there. I'm not sure if that would even be possible but I'd prefer that arrangement. I rarely maximize my browser so horizontal space isn't just dead space for me.

This is sort of what you get when you put folders in the Bookmarks Toolbar, but the links within them are just lists and not trees. This is how I manage my bookmarks.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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I don't know how people live with the mental burden and clutter of dozens of tabs of things they'll (if they were honest with themselves) never get around to reading. It's like watching one of those TV shows about hoarding, where people live in a rabbit warren of junk they claim they'll use one day.

Reminds me of desktops cluttered with icons

Indeed, my desktop has at most 5 icons. Yet everyone I see has a screenful of overlapping items. It seems like chaos.

If I have > 10 tabs open, I feel stressed because it means I'm not actually completing tasks. Anything more than this seems like ADD.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Has anybody tried the "Sidewise" Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sidewise-tree-styl... Looks like it has tree style tabs, among other features.

I used it for a while but didn't like that it was a separate window, and it also seemed to duplicate my tabs. Might be worth a try again because I do miss the tree style tabs in Chrome.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Thank you for providing this detail, I used to use tree tabs before the webextensions fiasco but hadn't gone back to it yet as I wasn't aware it was possible to hide the existing tab bar. I'll definitely give it another shot now thanks to your help! The last time I tried TST, it was fairly hostile to my battery on macOS; is that still a problem? Sidebar tabs are a massive workflow upgrade, it surprises me that it's n…

If by "last time" you mean the pre-WebExtension version - yes, that version was rather CPU intensive and I used a different extension (no longer maintained post-WebExtension) back then. I haven't seen any negative performance impact as far as battery or CPU usage are concerned, but as usual YMMV.

I just gave it another try. Unfortunately, things haven't improved. `about:performance` shows a "medium" energy impact for TST. My 2015 Macbook's fans come on and stay on until I disable TST again, after which they reliably spool back down after a short delay. While TST is enabled, Firefox shoots up the list of CPU users in Activity Monitor.

Oh well, it was worth a shot, sidebar tabs are just so good when they're working well, but it's not worth the battery drain.

Your userChrome.css tweaks worked great!

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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This is the first thing I install when setting up a new Firefox. Next is Tab Groups or Simple Tab Groups. I will create a tab group for each major category: Common (email, HN, news, daily sites), Python, Powershell, specific groups per project, then have 30 to 40 tabs per group. At work I have further groups for Support, Purchasing, research for specific projects, etc.

I use Chrome for web development jobs sometimes and really miss the vertical tabs and hierarchy. Everything squinched together across the top just feels cumbersome and less manageable.

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Tomato/tomato. I don’t understand how people browse the web with more than 4 or 5 tabs open at the same time.

I have about 400-500 open tabs spread between three browsers on three systems which I'm using simultaneously. At least on my phone, Firefox Focus has helped immensely.

Why though? Is it all in the same context?

I can't stand 10's of tabs let alone 100's!!

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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If by "last time" you mean the pre-WebExtension version - yes, that version was rather CPU intensive and I used a different extension (no longer maintained post-WebExtension) back then. I haven't seen any negative performance impact as far as battery or CPU usage are concerned, but as usual YMMV.

I just gave it another try. Unfortunately, things haven't improved. `about:performance` shows a "medium" energy impact for TST. My 2015 Macbook's fans come on and stay on until I disable TST again, after which they reliably spool back down after a short delay. While TST is enabled, Firefox shoots up the list of CPU users in Activity Monitor. Oh well, it was worth a shot, sidebar tabs are just so good when they're wor…

As another point of data, with FF Nightly on macOS 10.14/2018 MBP and ~10 tabs, I see no fan activity and low-to-none energy impact.
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