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Re: Singapore activist found guilty of hosting ‘illegal assembly’ via Skype

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> Surely a de facto dictatorship like this shouldn’t be so wealthy and successful[...] It's also worth noting that the entirety of Singapore just barely exceeds the area enclosed by Washington DC's beltway. Whatever their form of government, small city states are always going to be able to avoid many of the pitfalls of larger countries. There's effectively only one level of government to deal with, and the despot is…

This sounds like an argument for smaller nations?

India has a similar situation. All the south Indian states are demanding to be declared as separate nation. One of the Singapore's official language is Tamil whose origin is an south Indian state TamilNadu. Singapore is taken as a motivation to demand a separate nation.

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I see people in this thread surprised that this is happening in Singapore, a “modern” country. Singapore is certainly wealthy, the population is highly educated, institutions aren’t corrupt, all of which is great. However, the political system resembles a democracy only superficially. Every election since 1965 has been won by the same party. It is inconceivable that the People’s Action Party wouldn’t win an election…

Fun Fact. Lee Kuan Yew was a computer scientist before becoming politican and coded solving sudoku and shared his code over github also mentioned he wanted to learn haskell. Looks like computer scientists would make great politican's once elected but getting elected requires a different set of skills, luckily for Lee Kuan his father paved the way before him.

Re: Singapore activist found guilty of hosting ‘illegal assembly’ via Skype

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I see people in this thread surprised that this is happening in Singapore, a “modern” country. Singapore is certainly wealthy, the population is highly educated, institutions aren’t corrupt, all of which is great. However, the political system resembles a democracy only superficially. Every election since 1965 has been won by the same party. It is inconceivable that the People’s Action Party wouldn’t win an election…

Fun Fact. Lee Kuan Yew was a computer scientist before becoming politican and coded solving sudoku and shared his code over github also mentioned he wanted to learn haskell. Looks like computer scientists would make great politican's once elected but getting elected requires a different set of skills, luckily for Lee Kuan his father paved the way before him.

> Fun Fact. Lee Kuan Yew was a computer scientist before becoming politican

No, he wasn't. He was a lawyer with an undergraduate degree in economics. The closest that gets to being true is that his son, Lee Hsien Long, got a B.A. in Mathematics and Diploma (essentially an M.S.) in Computer Science before getting a Master of Public Administration. His work history immediately after getting the CS degree was as a military officer with a meteoric career path which appears to have been in field command and operations and general staff positions; he does not appear to ever have been a working computer scientist.

> Looks like computer scientists would make great politican's once elected but getting elected

That generalization goes far beyond what the single example you seem to rely on would support even if it were accurately described.

Re: Singapore activist found guilty of hosting ‘illegal assembly’ via Skype

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> Media and internet are not censored. Singapore has strong censorship mechanisms for the media and Internet. It ranks 151 on the Freedom of Press Index [0]. [0] https://rsf.org/en/singapore

What I meant is that they don't firewall the entire internet the way China does. You can read any international news or social media. Their censorship regime is purely domestic.

> Their censorship regime is purely domestic.

They block:

-pornography

-ashley madison

-an admittedly very questionable "news" site targeted at Singapore but operated from the outside

Further, the sale of malaysian newspapers is banned, as is private ownership of satellite TV equipment.

Re: Singapore activist found guilty of hosting ‘illegal assembly’ via Skype

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I would never go to Singapore. They'd probably end up whipping me a hundred times for something I did without even being aware of it. [1] IMHO that whole country should serve as a counterexample to all the rest. Humans really are good at making life miserable for each other aren't they? [1] Maybe farting in public, or wearing my shoes on the wrong feet or whatever.

In all fairness I'd be hesitant to live in Singapore on account of its high cost of living and poor work-life balance. However, there is a method to the madness as far as the legal system goes, which makes it tame to visit compare with other large cities in SE Asia or even western europe.

> In all fairness I'd be hesitant to live in Singapore on account of its high cost of living and poor work-life balance.

As an expat, that would likely not affect you much. Lots of MNCs have fairly nice working hours, decent pay and 20-25 days/year paid leave (on top of the numerous public holidays)

Cost of living depends on whether you need a big apartment in a posh location and a car. Sending kids to international school is also pricey.

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Do you have to go to an office daily? How convenient is that? Do you go out socially a lot? How are the restaurants and bars? Jakarta is the city in SEA i know the least. I spent 3 days there as a cheap backpacker 10 years ago. I remember spending a substantial amount of time in traffic.

No I worked remote for companies in the US, which was my main willingness to live in SE asia in the first place because salaries here are crap. Some places are better than others, if you lived in SCBD or Pondok Indah (where I am), and your office is close, it kind of feels like some parts of tokyo, but with a little more green space. Traffic is pretty crap though (morning and eveing when people are coming from work),…

> No I worked remote for companies in the US, which was my main willingness to live in SE asia in the first place because salaries here are crap.

You can make decent money in Singapore as an expat. But the range of salaries i've seen here is quite a bit larger than in most of the west.

As for the rest of your comment - interesting. Thank you for taking the time to write that up. I am no longer a backpacker and i travel and look at places differently nowadays. I have to check out Jakarta again.

I live in Singapore currently, have been here since 2013. There are things that i miss from my home country (Switzerland), but overall life here is good.

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Over regulated daily life (though very well run) combined with being very culturally bland automaton like outside of very few pockets, mixed with Israeli militarism applied to its own people, just doesn't feel very welcoming compared to say Thailand, Malaysia or Indonesia. Some of my wife's family has lived there and Indonesia for a while, and it is agreed that out of all the places in SE asia, it is a good place to…

Fair enough, but every city in malaysia feels like post apocalyptic singapore, infrastructure wise. Indonesia - not much quality of life overall.

Yeah but Singapore is so bland they fucking banned the song 25 or 6 to 4.

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I've never ever seen signs in the MRT about anything to do with pregnancy... (been here 7 years, catch the MRT to work every day, yellow and green lines)

Singapore once aired a commercial during their National Day Parade about making babies, sponsored by mentos obviously. [1] [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jxU89x78ac

WOW! I never knew this existed. Just sent it to my singaporean friends and they are like "BAHAHAHA OMG I FORGOT ABOUT THIS"

Re: Singapore activist found guilty of hosting ‘illegal assembly’ via Skype

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As a foreigner, the UK police is widely admired for their restraint. Tactics like kettling, for all their drawbacks, are absolutely preferable to the alternatives seen elsewhere in Europe. It’s one of those things, like the lack of ID cards and centuries-long administrative continuity, that really set the UK apart from most other places and made it a beacon of pragmatic liberalism. Wish for “normalization” at your pe…

Yes, people don't seem to realise that we have a policing model that is probably among the best in the world. Better to kettle people occasionally than blind them with watercannon and tear gas - or as the Americans seem to prefer, shoot them in the back while they run away.

We ban accounts that use HN for nationalistic flamewar, so could you please not post like this again?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Singapore activist found guilty of hosting ‘illegal assembly’ via Skype

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No I worked remote for companies in the US, which was my main willingness to live in SE asia in the first place because salaries here are crap. Some places are better than others, if you lived in SCBD or Pondok Indah (where I am), and your office is close, it kind of feels like some parts of tokyo, but with a little more green space. Traffic is pretty crap though (morning and eveing when people are coming from work),…

> No I worked remote for companies in the US, which was my main willingness to live in SE asia in the first place because salaries here are crap. You can make decent money in Singapore as an expat. But the range of salaries i've seen here is quite a bit larger than in most of the west. As for the rest of your comment - interesting. Thank you for taking the time to write that up. I am no longer a backpacker and i trav…

> But the range of salaries i've seen here is quite a bit larger than in most of the west.

I noticed this as well, do you have a college degree? I've noticed companies over here place even more emphasis on having such (even despite paying less than in the US, at least regarding work relating to writing software).

> I live in Singapore currently, have been here since 2013. There are things that i miss from my home country (Switzerland), but overall life here is good.

Do you go back and visit fairly often? I found that friend's and family were more likely to want to come to me or meet me somewhere outside than the US so I haven't really found the urge to go back to at least visit.

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