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Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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As someone who fought and lost a war with holes in an inflated mattress I have to say that even one atmosphere is a surprisingly powerful amount of pressure when applied over a long period.

On the other hand, it's probably easier when the air's moving the other direction.

True that, the air pressure would push the gum against the hole, rather than away from it.

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If it was deliberate then it sound like someone who doesn't know wtf they were / are doing. That rules out the astronauts, seems to point to someone on the ground, pre-launch, with nefarious intentions but a lack of knowledge on how best to execute that ill intent. Maybe?

I’d guess incompetence over malice

I'm suggesting both. That is, someone with bad intentions but too incompotent to exectute correctly.

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We knew that already in September, due to the way the hole was plastered up. With the wrong material. The spacewalk just confirmed the coverup by the engineer who really should have told his boss. With the right material to cover it up it would have been no problem at all, so it had to be fixed in space.

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Can they figure out if it was drilled in space or Earth

I can't imagine it'd be easy to get away with secretly drilling a hole into a space station as small as the ISS. I mean, someone is bound to check where the unexpected drilling noises are coming from, right?

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So I was teaching a new guy on building some of the interior work on sailboats. I showed him how to drill a couple of holes through the fiberglass flange to mount something-or-other. Several hours later my boss asks me why there's two small holes in the hull. Well, I didn't specifically tell him not to drill through the flange, the cm of space, and through the whole hull.

I'm a smart person but when learning stuff I often feel really dumb because I ask what should be really obvious questions. It's some weird mix of ignorance and fear of doing it wrong in front of the boss. "So fasten x to y with a screw." "Do I drill through and into the workbench too?" "Why would you do that?!" (In my mind) well I saw someone else fastening a work piece to the bench temporarily like that and why woul…

I just started a new job, so to reduce anxiety about how much I dont know I'm trying desperately to hold on to beginners/childs mind - absorbing without doing my normal immediate '"let's connect this to all I know". It seems to be working, in the sense that I'm learning new material quickly without overwhelming frustration at not knowing how to do things or what a lot of terminology means, but I also have a lot more incidents like you describe - because I'm not yet trying everything together, conclusions about what makes zero sense are absent.

Still, at least in this first month, I wouldn't want to change methods.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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post #63

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As someone who fought and lost a war with holes in an inflated mattress I have to say that even one atmosphere is a surprisingly powerful amount of pressure when applied over a long period.

On the other hand, it's probably easier when the air's moving the other direction.

One of the ideas was to put a piece of insulating tape inside so that it could push from there.

It would have worked if it weren't for a rubber column inside just next to the hole which required my tape to be curved at a right angle - screwing up any proper insulation.

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Shaving cream? Why?

Sounds like a Jurassic Park reference (inside job / sabotage)

Not a joke and unrelated with jurassic park or any other film reference. It was not used as a metaphor here. I'm talking about the real product for good reasons :-)

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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Completely unrelated but since you are asking about teaching methods. My father did this regarding food. If eventually it turns out my sister and me didn't like a particular thing recipes were adjusted. But to make us kids at least try, if we didn't finish our meals or we're being picky. He would put the plate on the counter and make us stand there until we finished. It was effective. It wasn't cruel, it was simply a…

>> method of making sure I finished my meal That approach has been linked to the obesity crisis. MacDonalds knows all about it, the need to finish what is given to you regardless of whether you are still hungry. They observe the lengths customers go to get that last fry at the bottom of the container. We should at least consider teaching kids today to not eat everything on the plate every time. Perhaps they should le…

The approach was to serve a reasonable amount of food. But the intent was to force me to try new things when I was simply being a picky eater. If I didnt like a particular thing after two or three meals, fair enough. It wasn't meant to force me to gorge myself, it was meant to force variety and it worked.

If I ate 80-90 percent and said I was full that was fine. When I was simply being picky because it was new, that's where that tactic came into play.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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What if I feel 84% full?

There is a known trick to get these 4% out.

Getting rid of those four percent is called turning Japanese.

Four percent less? I really think so.

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