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Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Post by soonoutoftime »

athirnuaimi wrote: post #7

As someone who has built and published apps on both major platforms, this issue of not being able to speak to someone is a problem on the Apple platform as well (as on Googles). As mentioned in the article, it’s heart wrenching to receive an email saying there is a problem with your app and know that the app or the release you worked so hard on might not get published. Having a release rejected can also be as bad as…

I've worked on apps on both platforms, and with others who have.

IIRC you can actually organise a call with somebody at Apple to discuss issues, but not with Google. Can anyone else confirm this? The app dev who shared this info with me was making millions for both Google and Apple.

The same app dev had their app taken down from Google Play but then reinstated within 24 hrs after some furious emailing. I know of another dev who received no response to their desperate emails, who was told to never try to create another account, just like OP. This dev hadn't made Google any money.

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Post by gergles »

Quanttek wrote: post #61
saalweachter wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nitpicking, there've been shady "urban mobility" apps before. Remember that one which told you which platform your train at eg Penn Station was likely to come in on, so you could wait on your track instead of in the designated waiting area? To put it in clickbait terms, "station operators HATE this", because there are a variety of safety and efficiency problens with people waiting on the platform, even when it helped…

Your apps/schedules don't tell you the platform? Here (GER & NL), they always tell you the track - be it official apps or the paper schedules - and all waiting areas are on the platforms themselves. Utrecht is the only exception I know, where there are still larger designated waiting areas outside the platform (tho the building is on top of the platforms, so you basically wait next to the escalator)

At Penn, the track is not announced until just a few moments before the train begins to board. This is ostensibly because the platforms are too small for people to wait on them, but it also has the side effect of keeping crowds up in the waiting area with all the shops.

The waiting area is on top of the escalators at Penn as well, but since you don't know which track you need to wait for, it is always a mad dash down the corridor for your train once the track number has been posted. This is made even worse by the fact that by the time the track number appears, there is only 3-5 minutes before departure of the train, so there is a sense of urgency required to get to the right place before the train leaves.

It is pretty terrible, but so is everything else about Penn.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Post by holoduke »

The once beloved company Google turned into a gigantic evil company with absolutely no compassion towards its developers and users. Everything they do is presented and marketed as something good, but deep under it is shady, controversial and goes straight into our norms of a good society. Imagine if companies like Google, Amazon, apple etc are dictating the rules. It won't be far of a regime in China. Expelled from society based on automated bits and false information. We shouldn't accept that kind of behaviour. We all should standup and knock this evil thing over.

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Post by naniwaduni »

Dayshine wrote: post #68
yulaow wrote: post #4

Wait a second... Did I understand it bad or if my Google dev account gets banned I cannot even create a new dev account directly linked to my person for the rest of my life? What.

Further, does this mean once banned, I could maliciously join organisations to get them shut down? Perhaps Pablo should get a job with a high profile but small on tech company (maybe a bank?) and watch Google change their policies immediately.

If that were the case, you might find yourself having a hard time joining organisations that care about this. It'd be something of a liability.

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Post by glow8 »

tokyodude wrote: post #22
athirnuaimi wrote: post #7

As someone who has built and published apps on both major platforms, this issue of not being able to speak to someone is a problem on the Apple platform as well (as on Googles). As mentioned in the article, it’s heart wrenching to receive an email saying there is a problem with your app and know that the app or the release you worked so hard on might not get published. Having a release rejected can also be as bad as…

I'd believe I'd rather just have a secure platform that's open to any apps, no gatekeepers. Kind of like the web. Almost anyone can make an website and no gatekeeper gets in the way. We mostly trust the browsers are secure (or at least I trust Chrome to be secure, maybe Firefox too soon). I feel like iOS in particular could already do this. They could just let users install apps from anywhere and then do their best t…

> (or at least I trust Chrome to be secure, maybe Firefox too soon)

What's wrong with Firefox? Are you talking about yourself or some security update coming soon?

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Post by ashelmire »

bad_user wrote: post #54
ashelmire wrote: post #45

Google, shutting down a service, replying with bots pretending to be humans, and a total lack of customer service? Say it ain’t so. The only Google services I rely on are email and search, and even in those cases I’m looking for alternatives.

Relying on them for email isn’t a small dependency since that’s your online identity, being linked to all your other online accounts. Pay for your own domain and if you can’t live without Gmail, at least go with GSuite. Personally I think Gmail sucks for delivering email and I got off it based on technical limitations too.

It’s on my todo list.

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Post by glow8 »

simonh wrote: post #38
ForHackernews wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, am I understanding correctly that Apple and Google actually charge developers money to produce the content that Apple and Google monetize on their app stores?

IIRC it’s about $100 or so per year. Basically hobby money just to make sure anyone submitting apps for review means it.

The Play Store only charges you $25 when you register, $100 a year is for Apple

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Post by simonh »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #65
simonh wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC it’s about $100 or so per year. Basically hobby money just to make sure anyone submitting apps for review means it.

That $100 per year is required just to keep apps installed on your own iDevices, let alone submitting them for review.

That hasn’t been true since XCode 7. You can side load apps onto your own devices from XCode with a free developer account, you only have to pay the fee to submit apps to the App Store.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Post by glow8 »

holoduke wrote: post #73

The once beloved company Google turned into a gigantic evil company with absolutely no compassion towards its developers and users. Everything they do is presented and marketed as something good, but deep under it is shady, controversial and goes straight into our norms of a good society. Imagine if companies like Google, Amazon, apple etc are dictating the rules. It won't be far of a regime in China. Expelled from s…

They've made sure they can't be knocked over though
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