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Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Sounds like a 100x better solution than the US where I literally receive spam multiple times per day as phone calls. Why don't you go innovate on something useful?

The US situation is also not ideal...but there is also solution in the middle

Yet you failed to have described one.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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I would love to be able to block all numbers coming from my area code and the first 3 digits of my number.. all my robo calls come from a number that looks just like mine.

Or send to Google Assistant screening. It's the best feature ever but they need to open it up to rules for automation (i.e. all unknown numbers from XXX area code).

The last thing I want to give google is access to all of my phone call data. I just want to reduce my footprint with that company.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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post #195

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Unfortunately, they can just call you from one of your contacts... it's not like a zillion apps haven't already grabbed that information (from one source or another). Alternately, your name (reverse lookup) and your parents names and phone numbers are easily found.

The amount of scam callers able to do this is approximately zero.

I think you mean the number willing to do it. Anyone with access to the internet can do it. It just raises the cost above zero.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Yes, this, exactly. It's mind-boggling you can't do this. (You can kind of, sort of approximate it w/ do-not-disturb mode, but turns off other notifications too, unfortunately. It needs to just be a separate option. I have zero interest in picking up calls from non-contacts in real-time.)

There are Android apps that block calls from non-contact numbers. Including open-source apps on GitHub. Maybe there are such apps for iOS also? It baffles me that this functionality isn't built-in. edit: Nevermind I can block non-contact calls in Do Not Disturb mode in the LG phone I'm using: https://i.imgur.com/ZcRSXlK.png Maybe iOS DnD has this too?

This solution would require using the phone in DND mode at all times. It's not ideal since you might actually want to use DND.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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I don't want to send all my calls to google

Call Screening is done locally on the phone, the call audio and transcripts are not sent to Google.

I very much want to believe this. But I can't. This is a sad state of affairs.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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post #269

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i bet that instead, you'd just get a new contract in which verizon decided that it was only free to talk to other verizon numbers, and would require you to pay extra to call outside the network. Then, they'd ask you to provide a birth certificate, SSN, CC number, and pay via direct deposit to have an account. if you want to penalize rob dialers, don't penalize companies that are not robodialing, or push the burden of…

Huh? Those robocalls are not originated on Verizon cellphones. A contract like that would do nothing to reduce Verizon’s liability, but it would certainly help drive customers elsewhere.

The point is that they would not do anything to reduce the calls, instead, they would erode your freedoms and charge you more to pay the fines.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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The other problem is with using third party navigational apps. While driving the phone app takes up the whole screen completely obscuring the directions. My wife constantly rejects calls because of this and I can’t talk to her!

You can switch apps while in a call.

Doing so could be hazardous. The act of double clicking the home button and then choosing the correct app from several other open apps would take your attention off the next turn and off the road.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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There is GDPR now in Europe, this should fix that :) - if you live in the EU of course.

The challenge there is that you don't know which companies actually have your information.

Related information should be acquirable, eg. source of information

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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"At the telelphony-infrastructure level, it’s a supremely difficult problem that lacks a short-term fix because the underlying protocol is hopelessly insecure." This is only partly true. Technologically the solution is difficult, but it's easy from the social side as carriers can blacklist the smaller carriers that allow this fraud to take place. The real problem is that everyone except the consumer benefits from thi…

There are so many simple solutions to this it's not even a challenge. Here's some simple ones: 1. If you want to make more than ~5k calls per month from a number, you must deposit $50,000 for every 10k calls you wish to make. If your number gets reported more than some cutoff number of times, you forfeit this bond money. 2. Call throttling. As a certain number (or customer) makes more calls, the interval between call…

I dont have "a number", Im a VoIP provider with thousands of clients, pinky promise!

"your number" doesnt exist, my clients port their existing numbers thru my system, so I just let them pass those for convenience, all automated!

Are you saying my customer doesnt own the same area and prefix number as you, receiver of a spam call from India? Bad bad customer, must've been a glitch/fraud, I promise to take care of it.

Re: Apple needs to change iPhone’s call UI because robocalls are killing us

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Or send to Google Assistant screening. It's the best feature ever but they need to open it up to rules for automation (i.e. all unknown numbers from XXX area code).

The last thing I want to give google is access to all of my phone call data. I just want to reduce my footprint with that company.

Audio, transcript, and other call screen data is stored locally on your phone, not sent to Google or anywhere else: https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9094888

It really is a nice little feature.

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