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$80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by spitfire »

AndrewWarner wrote: post #101
kranner wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I recall correctly, in previous interviews Andrew has talked about running background checks and verifications on reported incomes. Overall I think he's a great interviewer.

Thanks Kranner. When I interview someone who wasn't referred by someone I know or when I'm unsure of the numbers before an interview, I often ask them to log into their affiliate or paypal or bank account to show me activity using Skype's desktop share. Or I ask for their accountant to confirm their numbers. Or I ask to see their tax returns. I always keep what I see private. In this case, I didn't need to do that be…

Just to correct the impression. I was calling the interviewee's slimy for their sales page tactics.

My opinion of you (already low) dropped through association. I understand you're trying to keep up the pace, but sometimes the right thing to do is give up quantity for quality.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by callmeed »

phlux wrote: post #104
callmeed wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely creates a lot of noise and worries me as someone who is just about to enter the mobile app market. I just finished some iOS training and am working on my first paid app. What would you say is the key to getting where you are? Apps with true utility–or something else?

Where did you take iOS training?

http://pragmaticstudio.com/

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by chc »

sofal wrote: post #105
BonesLF wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only a scam if you fail. Hell, most people give up even when the blueprint is right in front of them. It's time to stop making excuses and realize that there is so much money to be made on this here internets that the best idea is to TRY HARDER. caveat: Yes, this may be a bit slutty. But I don't know if you noticed this Halloween - slutty is in.

It's only a scam if you fail. So it's not a scam if you make money off it?

I think he means it's not a scam if it actually makes money for the reader. The hallmark of a get-rich-quick scheme is that it doesn't work.

OTOH, this does sound like a get-rich-quick scheme.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by switch »

Let's break it down.

1) Release a bunch of free apps. 2) Take the holiday season - the single month with the highest sales and traffic. 3) Round it up a little bit to get to $80K a month. 4) Find as many people as you can who're willing to believe the story. 5) Don't lie - just let people extrapolate - Say $80K in a month and let people assume that means $80K per month.

Their website is the classic long form sales letter.

Make it long so people get invested. Offer $2600 worth of value for just $300. Then knock another $200 off.

Appeal to the total idiots who think a 'free' ready to go app that is included will start making them $5,000 a day.

Quote examples like iShoot + kitchen table without telling the whole story i.e. the guy's programming experience and the actual number of months spent and the strategy he used.

A fool and his money are soon parted. These two gentleman are taking upon themselves this painful task.

If we set aside ethics it's just a strategy - One guy builds a super valuable product and sell it at high price to smart people who value it.

Another person builds a house of cards and targets people's greed and laziness.

Notice a few things -

1) Their insistence that they spend just 5 hours a week on this. 2) Their focus on showing earnings from a single month - the month in the year that has the most sales. 3) If you were to wish for a easy, no hassle way to make lots of money - You'd dream up exactly what they are claiming. It's absolutely perfect - you don't have to know coding, you need just 5 hours a week, and you'll start making $5,000 a day within 60 days.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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switch wrote: post #114

Let's break it down. 1) Release a bunch of free apps. 2) Take the holiday season - the single month with the highest sales and traffic. 3) Round it up a little bit to get to $80K a month. 4) Find as many people as you can who're willing to believe the story. 5) Don't lie - just let people extrapolate - Say $80K in a month and let people assume that means $80K per month. Their website is the classic long form sales le…

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Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by shard »

gregpilling wrote: post #73
run4yourlives wrote: post #58

Did anyone actually ask them to verify these numbers? Did a third party do so? Extraordinary claims ($80K a month) require extra-ordinary evidence. They don't even really seem to know what their revenue is like, but their fairly certain about the large size of the numbers... normally, that's the smell of bullshit. Tom Vu's girlfriend wants to see the proof of these claims.

Ahh, Tom Vu. Whatever happened to him and his late night infomercials? I remember his great quote - "Do you think these girls like me? NO, they like my money!"

Curious me googling... Surprised me: he is winning oodles at poker tournaments, https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Tom_Vu#Profes...

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by mibale »

Why would the guy still be a software engineer if they were making 80k a month? Something is not right with the story.

Have you ever thought that these guys are inflating their #s to sell the ebook?

What proof did the interviewer have of their revenue stream? Did they show you any of their live google revenue stats?

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by mibale »

mibale wrote: post #117

Why would the guy still be a software engineer if they were making 80k a month? Something is not right with the story. Have you ever thought that these guys are inflating their #s to sell the ebook? What proof did the interviewer have of their revenue stream? Did they show you any of their live google revenue stats?

I'm really disappointed in Andrew disseminating this bullshit. It hurts the reputation of your site badly. As an iPhone developer I can guarantee that ads cannot deliver that much revenue for the stats shown on iTunes. People, please don't waste your time with this ebook scam.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Post by dcanio »

eob wrote: post #31
epo wrote: post #27

This sounds a bit too good to be true. How many ad impressions add up to $80,000 in a month? What is that in user hours per month for 12 or so apps? I'd be fascinated to see the financial statements, I bet we never will

I agree. $80,000 a month in mobile ads is a lot of impressions.

Right, these guys are scamming us all. It is impossible.
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