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Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Those are completely different. One is "Hi my name is XYZ at company ABC. Do you want to talk about our product DEF?" to which you instantly know it's a sales call and how to respond. The other is specifically emailing employees asking about their use in order to build a case against their employer in the hopes of getting an enterprise agreement or lawsuit out of it. It's far more shady and the actual nature of the c…

Whether the intent is positive or negative is unrelated to whether it's phishing. You could phish someone's info and then send them a gift basket.

Let me clear it up for you:

"Hello my name is X I would like to sell you Y" is not phishing. It's not asking for any information. It's annoying, sure, but you know how to deal with it and they won't bother continuing when they know you're not interested (ie. by saying no)

"Hello my name is X, I work at Oracle, do you have a few minutes to talk about your use of VirtualBox" followed by asking questions about how you use it in order to build a case against your employer can be perceived as phishing. They are either outright not representing or misrepresenting the purpose of the conversation, and asking for information for purposes other than what you'd expect. It doesn't fit the exact definition in the dictionary, but it's close enough and uses the same sort of tactics that it can easily be considered another example of it.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Is anyone using VirtualBox on the desktop? Specifically, to run Linux/macOS/Windows guests on a macOS host? Would you recommend it? Or is the best option VMware Fusion, Parallels, or something else?

I recently got a Mac and wanted to avoid the cost of Parallels, so I tried VirtualBox first. It was insanely slow. Like, I would be typing text into a VM and I would type a line, then wait and watch the characters appear. This happened on a 2018 Macbook Pro host with 32GB RAM. This happened on both Windows and Ubuntu guests. So, I tried Parallels and it was so fast I can't really tell the difference between the host…

I use VB on several different macs of various vintages and it runs Ubuntu and Win10 guests just fine. Be sure to install the Guest Additions in the guest OS, they provide a bunch of vital drivers - like video, which sounds like what might have been bogging you down.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Whether the intent is positive or negative is unrelated to whether it's phishing. You could phish someone's info and then send them a gift basket.

Let me clear it up for you: "Hello my name is X I would like to sell you Y" is not phishing. It's not asking for any information. It's annoying, sure, but you know how to deal with it and they won't bother continuing when they know you're not interested (ie. by saying no) "Hello my name is X, I work at Oracle, do you have a few minutes to talk about your use of VirtualBox" followed by asking questions about how you u…

I don't think the purpose of the conversation matters. It's about if/how you fake your identity and what information/access you collect.

That's why I bring up phishing personal info to send a gift basket. Despite flipping the purpose on its head, it's still phishing.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Let me clear it up for you: "Hello my name is X I would like to sell you Y" is not phishing. It's not asking for any information. It's annoying, sure, but you know how to deal with it and they won't bother continuing when they know you're not interested (ie. by saying no) "Hello my name is X, I work at Oracle, do you have a few minutes to talk about your use of VirtualBox" followed by asking questions about how you u…

I don't think the purpose of the conversation matters. It's about if/how you fake your identity and what information/access you collect. That's why I bring up phishing personal info to send a gift basket. Despite flipping the purpose on its head, it's still phishing.

The misrepresentation of the purpose is what brings it into phishing territory. By misrepresenting the purpose, you're also misrepresenting who you are and what your intentions are.

Something that's already phishing will still be phishing even if the purpose is misrepresented. Something that isn't otherwise phishing, however, can be made into something akin to phishing by misrepresenting the purpose.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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I don't think the purpose of the conversation matters. It's about if/how you fake your identity and what information/access you collect. That's why I bring up phishing personal info to send a gift basket. Despite flipping the purpose on its head, it's still phishing.

The misrepresentation of the purpose is what brings it into phishing territory. By misrepresenting the purpose, you're also misrepresenting who you are and what your intentions are. Something that's already phishing will still be phishing even if the purpose is misrepresented. Something that isn't otherwise phishing, however, can be made into something akin to phishing by misrepresenting the purpose.

> By misrepresenting the purpose, you're also misrepresenting who you are

Wha?

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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I don't care much about other features either, but accessing USB devices is often invaluable.

Often? For what kind of device? Input devices don't need to be fast, and storage is usually better off with a shared folder anyway.

There’s lots of other hardware that people use. For example, the usb cable to connect to my BMW needs usb 2.0, and the software only works under Windows XP, so I have a virtual machine for that.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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The misrepresentation of the purpose is what brings it into phishing territory. By misrepresenting the purpose, you're also misrepresenting who you are and what your intentions are. Something that's already phishing will still be phishing even if the purpose is misrepresented. Something that isn't otherwise phishing, however, can be made into something akin to phishing by misrepresenting the purpose.

> By misrepresenting the purpose, you're also misrepresenting who you are Wha?

Maybe this got lost halfway down this comment thread, but the whole point of this being considered phishing-like is that Oracle was emailing individual developers, asking questions about their use. The developers didn't realize so that Oracle can build a case against their employer and accidentally gave away details that Oracle would then use to pressure the employer to get licenses or would outright sue.

Developers likely thought they were speaking to Support, or responding to some kind of survey/questionnaire about their use cases and how they use VirtualBox, when in reality were being misled as to the actual purpose of the conversation.

Just because they were speaking to someone from Oracle as opposed to a third party scammer does not mean that the person they were speaking with didn't misrepresent/fake who they were.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Avoid VirtualBox and becoming trapped in the non-free & personal use only extension by using one of the very decent open source alternatives Boxes[1] or virt-manager[2] [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes [2] https://virt-manager.org/

What VM should I use if I’m on macOS?

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Linux only by the looks of things though.

The equivalent on macOS would leverage Hypervisor.framework, like xhyve or Veertu. https://github.com/machyve/xhyve https://veertu.com/anka-technology/#hypervisor

Xhyve looks promising, but it’s really new and at this stage it lacks all but the most basic documentation.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Exactly, I'm upvoting this to prevent poor souls stuck on Windows from looking for these nice solutions...

But can't the poor souls stuck on windows use hyper-v and RDP into the vm?

Hyper V requires a Windows Pro license last time I checked. That’s significantly more expensive that VirtualBox.
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