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Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.

How do you have employees in Syria? It’s a violation of federal sanctions. Edit: In the US, UK, and EU.

There's more countries in the world other than the US, you know.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.

> They were using Slack from Syria though. This doesn't excuse anything. People in Syria are people too. This is similar to how people were calling for websites to block access to Europe over the copyright thing. The internet is a place where you don't even need to have a nationality. It is a place where we can all exist as pure thoughts. Why are we letting politics fuck it up?

The internet is not a place. It only functions to connect people and places which exist in physical locations that are bound by national and regional laws, and the transfer of data between locations is subject to these rules.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #64

A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.

How do you have employees in Syria? It’s a violation of federal sanctions. Edit: In the US, UK, and EU.

I love when people just assume that everyone in the world just live in the US. Hackernews users are international and he uses Slack.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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As an outsider, I am really surprised by how deep-rooted America's hostility is towards Iran. Shi'ite Iran certainly has human rights issues, but as far as terrorism is concerned the majority of them are orchestrated by Sunni groups. 9/11 hijackers, Al Queda, Islamic State, Paris attackers - are all Sunni.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #64

A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.

How do you have employees in Syria? It’s a violation of federal sanctions. Edit: In the US, UK, and EU.

Presumably the employer isn't based in the US? (Sorry, but that seems the obvious answer to your question.)

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just not log into slack when on holiday?

If you have an app installed in your phone, it might sync without your knowledge.

Sure, so your option is "uninstall app" or "never visit country/region I've always wanted to".

Tough choice.

I'm not defending slack or practices like it (hell, I have a blank phone I use whenever I leave the country) but it's not quite the choice you're making it out to be.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if you once log in during a holiday trip to iran your account gets blocked

Iran's been on my list of "wanna go" destinations for a while (Food and architecture mainly). Looks like I'd have to choose between that and having any connection with a US based company. Great.

If you visit Iran it will impact your ability to visit certain countries without a visa, like the UK.

Also, from what I've gathered, visiting Israel may impact your ability to visit Iran.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #64

A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.

How do you have employees in Syria? It’s a violation of federal sanctions. Edit: In the US, UK, and EU.

Which might mean American companies can't employ people in Syria, but what does that have to do with the rest of the world?

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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My wife’s Slack account was closed yesterday.

She created the account while traveling in Cuba (legally) years ago and hasn’t been back to Cuba or any other sanctioned country since.

She is a cofounder of an org that uses Slack heavily and has now lost access to all her messages and files from the past couple years of work.

There appears to be no appeal process here.

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