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Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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I believe that the only party that suffers from those sanctions are actually the populations living in those dictatorships who don't have a say about who is their leader. Who does actually benefit from them and who do they really harm?

There are other parties that suffer from the sanctions. For example, the guy in the Tweet, who doesn't even live in Iran and is merely ethnically Iranian. Not to mention anyone in the US (or, just ethnically North American?) who takes the ethical stance of ignoring the sanction and gets punished for it.

I think it's also worth noting that Iranians have no possibility of renouncing their Iranian citizenship. So even if they wanted to cut any possible connection to Iran, they will never be able to get rid off their citizenship.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #21

"originating from" is an interesting phrase as far as the internet goes and people's mobility. Is that when the account was first used? Majority of use related to IP? Something to do with the email address?

I would probably guess it's geolocation at time of registration.

He says he created the account in Canada: https://twitter.com/a_h_a/status/1075691620081623041

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

#64

A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.

How do you have employees in Syria? It’s a violation of federal sanctions.

Edit: In the US, UK, and EU.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #47

Wow. This seems rather unprecedented and unnecessary, based upon the lack of action in this regard by other companies I don't know why Slack would do this. If for instance this kind of arbitrary action took place on GitHub I could see it having a detrimental impact to free software projects. This is another good reason to choose Zulipchat and other self-hostable platforms instead of proprietary SaaS solutions.

>This is another good reason to choose Zulipchat and other self-hostable platforms instead of proprietary SaaS solutions until someone targets your host and gets it shut down.

I don't understand what's wrong with this comment, but OP is right.

We have seen cases where domain registries or hosting providers suspend accounts for violating their ToS, which is totally legal.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #47

Wow. This seems rather unprecedented and unnecessary, based upon the lack of action in this regard by other companies I don't know why Slack would do this. If for instance this kind of arbitrary action took place on GitHub I could see it having a detrimental impact to free software projects. This is another good reason to choose Zulipchat and other self-hostable platforms instead of proprietary SaaS solutions.

>This is another good reason to choose Zulipchat and other self-hostable platforms instead of proprietary SaaS solutions until someone targets your host and gets it shut down.

Then at least you can move it elsewhere.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone I have ever met that has been to Iran absolutely raves about it. I've never met a single person that didn't extend their stay, and doesn't rate it as hands down the best country they have ever been to. It's very, very high on my list. But if you have an American or British passport you currently can't go without an escort. (I'm an Overlander, I drove AK-Argentina and am now driving right around Africa. I've…

This sounds a bit interesting, extending trips doesn't sound like a common occurrence, but you say you met 200+ people that did just that?

I think he's talking about overland travel, in which case extending trips would certainly be a common occurrence.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran's been on my list of "wanna go" destinations for a while (Food and architecture mainly). Looks like I'd have to choose between that and having any connection with a US based company. Great.

Or just not log into slack when on holiday?

If you have an app installed in your phone, it might sync without your knowledge.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #47

Wow. This seems rather unprecedented and unnecessary, based upon the lack of action in this regard by other companies I don't know why Slack would do this. If for instance this kind of arbitrary action took place on GitHub I could see it having a detrimental impact to free software projects. This is another good reason to choose Zulipchat and other self-hostable platforms instead of proprietary SaaS solutions.

>This is another good reason to choose Zulipchat and other self-hostable platforms instead of proprietary SaaS solutions until someone targets your host and gets it shut down.

I'm not familiar with Zulipchat specifically but unless you're running a community with thousands of concurrent users then you could easily host most self-hostable chat platforms on a low powered devices (eg Raspberry Pi) on a home broadband internet connection.

Obviously this is a less than ideal solution, but my point is you're not reliant on AWS / OVH / Digital Ocean / whoever you choose for hosting.

Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada

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post #64

A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.

How do you have employees in Syria? It’s a violation of federal sanctions. Edit: In the US, UK, and EU.

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