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MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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post #21

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OP here. I waited several hours between contacting MC and posting the blog entry. This was (and still is) a time-sensitive mission-critical issue. I have customers I cannot contact about a potential security flaw in my product. Happily, I need to contact them to tell them that my product is NOT affected, but it could easily have been otherwise, and in the future it might be otherwise. This is an existential threat to…

it almost sounds like they don't want your customers to know your product is not affected. hypothetically speaking, could one of your clients make a possibly bad hasty security move by being under the immpression your product is vulnerable?

I would give you very long odds that no one at MC had a clue who I was before this story showed up on the front page of HN. My mailing list is very small (it's a very niche product) and I hardly use the MC account (which was the problem to begin with). I'm sure I just got caught in their process. I'm equally sure that their process was designed to thwart abuse, which is surely a major problem for them. (In fact, it surely the major problem for them!) But it just seems to me that they just didn't think it through. This whole unfortunate situation could have been avoided with a single automated email drawing my attention to the fact that my account was about to be closed for inactivity.

Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here. I waited several hours between contacting MC and posting the blog entry. This was (and still is) a time-sensitive mission-critical issue. I have customers I cannot contact about a potential security flaw in my product. Happily, I need to contact them to tell them that my product is NOT affected, but it could easily have been otherwise, and in the future it might be otherwise. This is an existential threat to…

It sounds like you afforded more notice to MailChimp than they did for you.

Just because someone is a dick to you doesn't mean that you should be a dick back. Especially when you have no leverage.

Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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> It will be your responsibility to keep it safe and you'd have to do it every fucking time if you want to update your data. You might want to consider removing "fucking" from your front page. I'm really not one to bat an eye at any form of cursing but seeing it on a company's webpage like that doesn't sit well. You have a good idea, let the tech speak for itself, no profanity needed.

Yes, gonna remove that! Thanks for the feedback :D

Different commenter, but I think in your pricing section, you may have enterprise spelled incorrectly. "Enterprice" -> "Enterprise"

Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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post #152

I can certainly sympathize with this. Over the past 20 years I've gotten bit several times by 3rd party email services shutting down with little or no notice and even had access to my email services sold to spammers by the providers I was paying for it. The last time it happened I'd created a "Mandrill" account while developing an app and just a few weeks before releasing it I got a notice saying "Mandrill has been a…

I run my personal mailserver on a DigitalOcean VPS, but I wouldn't recommend it. I've never had blacklisting issues and email works fine over IPv4, but outbound connections on all mail ports (25, 109, 110, 143, 465, 587, 995; not 993, oddly) are silently dropped over IPv6. They assign each host a IPv6 /124, instead of a /64 or better like other providers, so they block outbound SMTP for spam prevention. The other blo…

I can't say I'd recommend DO for an email server either. I wasn't blacklisted per se, I was blocked before I even sent any email and needed to be whitelisted.

I won't say DO is a bad choice for a mailserver, nor a good one. I just did a quick search to see if that's changed in the past few years and came across "Helm", but that's not really a "good" option either.

The real problem is there is no "good" choice for a dedicated mailserver or service provider.

Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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Reminds me of when MailChimp quadrupled Mandrill prices, with almost no notice. Severe disruption to our company; I had to pull engineers off key projects to migrate out email system.

I'm not sure why people keep trusting them given their track record.

Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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post #13

To people mentioning public shaming. I had a mailing list with them removed with all contacts lost and account banned without even notifying me. Customer support indeed responded, but with something like your account was banned because you are involved into cryptocurrencies (i had hashcash.io - no selling or buying of crypto is even close) and we completely wiped all your data. Only after a hint about possible public…

I wonder about how they detect cryptocurrencies and if every mailing list that deals with security is going to get tagged. Makes me wonder if any other words are problematic. I wonder if any historical societies use MailChimp to announce their lectures? Might be interesting to see if they got shutdown. Tumblr might not be the only ones having a bit of a problem in proper detection. Reminds me of the YouTubers who do…

>I wonder if any historical societies use MailChimp

I was confused for a second with the mental image of Nero sending out blast emails to Rome's citizens.

Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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Our business was on MailChimp years ago. We were on a paid tier. In 2012 we decided to try sending our own email via arpReach + SES. Once we set this up we asked MailChimp how to pause our paid account. We wanted to stop sending email and return to a free account until we needed MailChimp again. Their response was that there was no way to do that... I recall it being something like "we do not like" or "do not allow"…

Yeah, MailChimp support is absolutely terrible. And it literally looks like they don't care about it at this point. I stopped using them a few months back and moved to SendX. The experience with their support team has been phenomenal.

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Re: MailChimp deleted my account with no warning

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post #215

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That is outstanding! Looking for that news is the only reason I waded through the threads. Congratulations.

Thanks. I'm pretty sure it would not have happened without the HN community putting this on the front page. Many thanks to everyone who upvoted this story, you may well have saved my business.

Well, my wife uses MailChimp, so maybe you'll have saved her business :)
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