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Since we don't have a mind-reading machine, by that logic, we can conclude that no statement can be proven to be a lie. After all, how can we know what an alleged liar is really thinking?
Lies can be proven by finding evidence someone did know something when they say the opposite.
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What if it was a free account?
Why offer free accounts if you don't want to support them? If google decided to close gmail or youtube without any prior notice, I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be pissed of, and rightly so.
People's gmail/youtube accounts are routinely closed without prior notice.
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The company is set up to deliver a lie, even if the last person telling it is doing so unintentionally.
That's...fascinating. While we have lots of corporate personhood, I normally disregard blaming specific actions on a company because at the end of the day a person makes the call. But here you've pointed out that a company, operating as a collection of people, can "act" in ways that may be unintentional or may be deliberate, but are hard to pin down to a specific person. Definitely worth considering in more depth, th…
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Thanks for answering! I think your perspective is becoming more common. It's not like MailChimp is a start-up, so these assumptions aren't inherently crazy.
At some point people started expecting unreasonable things from random free services on the internet. I still think it's ridiculous. I hope that in the future, schools will also teach some basics of computer hygiene in IT classes, and how to behave on the internet. Things like what internet services are, why backups are important, and how to practically do them, how to evaluate risks when communicating on the interne…
It would be wonderful if we taught people how to navigate the digital age. It would be similar to a driving course or personal finance. I know I had none of the above when I went through school, so I won't hold my breath, but I would support an initiative to provide more practical skills in school.
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OP here. It never crossed my mind that MC would cut me off like this with no warning and no possibility of recovery. Lesson learned.
Any company is liable to data loss or even sudden company collapse. You don’t need to fear them deciding to cut you off in order to be backing up.
News flash: MailChimp just reinstated my account! Thank you, HN community, for your help.
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My little sister works in customer support for a fairly large email marketing company that competes with MailChimp. From hearing her talk about some of her conversations with users booted from the platform I think a good number of spammers sincerely believe they have a legitimate business and are confused to hear they've been flagged for spam. A lot of these people seem to only know enough about the internet to be da…
> I would love it if a publication profiled a few spammers. I suspect they're very different from how most people imagine them. You might like Spam Nation: https://amzn.com/dp/B00L5QGBL0/
I stopped using MailChimp ever since and even though their integration is much simpler, I do not use them for my clients. Every now and then I do have one or two clients wanting to integrate with them, but I do honestly warn them of what they're capable of and be the judge.
It's not like they're cheap. Their plans are pricey and yeah, they do have good deliverability, but the competition has caught up ever since. The only way they're able to keep existing accounts is by passive-aggressive scare "Watchout, we have the best deliverability and if you move elsewhere for price concerns, you have tons of these problems to deal with, including deliverability, so stick with us".
This is 2018. No one should be using MailChimp. There isn't any good reason to.
[1] http://www.dangrossman.info/2016/02/28/mandrills-betrayal/