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Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

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Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

#11
I dont think your first statement is true. Are magazines required to compensate their writers? I don't think that they are, it depends on the license applied to the original content. If there's no license they can only print it if Fair Use applies or copyright is reassigned.

We cannot examine the other issues when the assumptions in your first two sentences are in question.

Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

#14
Hmmmm

You have a new account, and I think you are either trying to stir up some trouble or trying to hide who you really are. If this were a reasonable thing to bring up (in the manner you chose), then you wouldn't have to hide who you are.

However, you used the second person and directly addressed the reader twice (vs addressing the community) and it appears that you are trying to get people to "hop on the wagon" and protest the lack of fees after 'deciding' upon a fair approach.

If my post comes across as accosting, it is because you could have easily have said:

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"Hacker News, is it fair that Hacker Monthly doesn't compensate its writers like other magazines? Should it?"

Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

#15

As I mentioned here ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1856101 ): We give our authors a print copy plus 1 year digital subscription. The comment contributors get the digital copy plus 1 year digital subscription. Edit: And of course, full and proper credit (Thanks, Peter). The author also gets to link to his/her websites/twitter account in the his/her biography.

I bought this up in comments two issues ago when one of the authors mentioned that they didn't know there was no free PDF issue any longer.

As I said at the time, you should pay contributors at least a token fee to remove any ambiguity about copyright ownership. There is just far too much that can go wrong with the current system, and you are exposing yourself to liability. Saying 'we do pay the writers for their copyright by giving them a free copy of their own content' is not an answer.

I remember when I used to write a monthly column in a computing magazine I would take a monthly salary of $1 simply to remove any ambiguity about ownership. It was company policy not to accept or publish any content that was free (because it never ended up being free).

You are only one pissed off author away from losing everything, or causing a fuss (they could decide to change their mind for the heck of it, a year later).

It would be very different if you were giving a free PDF edition away and charging for a print edition - that is how most open source works (ie. download for free, pay for a CD)

Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

#16
I think it would be shameful to ask to be paid. These articles are mostly from people who just wanted to share their thoughts with the rest of the world. They are not writers.

Also most of these articles make it to HM because they stir up some interesting conversations. You can say the community makes the post popular. Should the community get paid too?

Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

#17
I don't have a view on the articles that are republished - I think it comes down to the case-by-case situation between the blog post writer and Hacker Monthly (some bloggers are pro writers and thus kind need to be paid others are blogging for fun and would enjoy the extra distribution).

I'd be interested, however, in seeing the comments left on HN licensed as Creative Commons-With Attribution. I'd personally be happy for commercial use, but I can see an argument for Non-Commercial Use only license.

Everything you write here is being ingested into BackType and a load of others places and being used for all sorts of stuff so why not just assume that comments belong to the ether and be done with it?

Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

#18
post #15

As I mentioned here ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1856101 ): We give our authors a print copy plus 1 year digital subscription. The comment contributors get the digital copy plus 1 year digital subscription. Edit: And of course, full and proper credit (Thanks, Peter). The author also gets to link to his/her websites/twitter account in the his/her biography.

I bought this up in comments two issues ago when one of the authors mentioned that they didn't know there was no free PDF issue any longer. As I said at the time, you should pay contributors at least a token fee to remove any ambiguity about copyright ownership. There is just far too much that can go wrong with the current system, and you are exposing yourself to liability. Saying 'we do pay the writers for their cop…

You have a point. I will check with my lawyer.

Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

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Paying people per word is just silly. Can we please not carry over this hackish way of valuing a writer's contribution? If we wanted a metric of the value of the post, I would think up-votes would be a better metric. But personally, I agree with the others here saying that monetary compensation is not a good idea. Or, if you feel the desire to give back to the community financially for financial success you are havin…

I think you have a slight misunderstanding about what "pay per word" means in the writing business. Publications don't just tell writers they're getting $.05 per word and then let them run off and produce as many words as they want. Rather, they tend to have word limits and expectations per article: 500, 1000, etc. The reasons they pay "per word," and not necessarily a flate rate per piece, are several:

a) They want to reserve the right to edit the final piece and/or change word count expectations on the fly.

b) There might be additional work added to the work order, such as sidebars or supplementary appendices. Rather than draw up an entirely new contract or fee structure, they'll just add these to word count.

All in, pay-per-word usually ends up underpaying writers for their contributions to typical publications or advertisements. Pay-per-word doesn't take into account hours per article, which can be highly variable depending on the nature of the assignment. An in-depth research project yielding a 1,000 word essay is obviously harder to produce than a 1,000 word opinion piece about men's fashion.

Re: Ask HN: How much compensation would you like from "Hacker Monthly"?

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Hmmmm You have a new account, and I think you are either trying to stir up some trouble or trying to hide who you really are. If this were a reasonable thing to bring up (in the manner you chose ), then you wouldn't have to hide who you are. However, you used the second person and directly addressed the reader twice (vs addressing the community) and it appears that you are trying to get people to "hop on the wagon" a…

Or, he really is the French president. But that makes no sense.
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