Seattle reminds me of London. Sure the weather sucks and it is raining all the time, but the people make up for it by being awesome to each other. People in sunny cities tend to be dicks[1] Some of my fav cities in the world are those I least expected to be awesome. [1] not a scientific study but exhibit A: Los Angeles
Have you heard of the Seattle Freeze? Basically it goes like this: the locals here (people who grew up/went to school here) are incredibly resentful of "transplants" who came from elsewhere, mostly to work in the tech industries here. We're blamed for anything from turning Seattle from a sleepy laid-back town into a monstrosity of big-city lights (it... isn't), to raising housing prices, to making everything suck mor…
Joe Stump: Your city sucks (And so does mine)
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#122what about vancouver (canada)?
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#123I'll throw in my comments about Washington D.C./Northern Virginia. I've lived here about ten years (first five in Northern Virginia, the past five in downtown DC) Pros: 1.) The tech community here is actually quite good. It definitely feels like it's gotten better since I've lived here. There's no shortage of smart folks working on cool things, even if they are a little more spread out geographically. 2.) While I wou…
pros:
1. public transit. Metro is pretty good, bus is fantastic within the district. A car is a liability in the district. Outside the district ... well why would you want to go there anyway?
2. Diverse neighborhoods. Gentrification has been creeping west to east across the city, but between lily white Georgetown and what remains of "Chocolate City" in Southeast are a number of incredibly diverse communities.
3. I think the food is pretty good. The K St/downtown area it's pretty lousy, but its not hard to get good eats in Georgetown, Adams Morgan, Dupont, U St, and parts of Northeast. If you can find the real thing, the half smokes are damn good.
4. Ambitious people who give a shit about interesting things. Bars are packed with 20 somethings who work for nonprofits saving the gay ostriches of Namibia. Yet almost everyone is cynical enough that they don't actually expect to change the world.
5. Exceptional parks. Decent hiking in Virginia national parks. Not far from decent beaches.
6. Surprisingly good biking despite the dumb fucks on their cell phones. The city is packed with bike messengers who are aggressive and keep the cabbies in line. Traffic is bad enough that cyclists are more worried about hitting a car than vice versa.
7. Not nearly as dangerous as it's made out to be. Crime is for tourists and dealers. Take a stroll through some of the Northeast neighborhoods and you'll get mugged. Live in those neighborhoods and you'll be fine.
cons:
1. The rest of the country sends their most ambitious lawyers to DC. Fortunately, most of them live in NoVa or never leave Capitol Hill so you probably won't have to actually interact with them.
2. Crap tech scene. Mostly gov and large contractor stuff who have piss poor standards.
3. Rent. Although, if you aren't a prick you can find some decent places in the "rougher" parts of Northeast.
4. Southeast is a little bit of Beirut circa 1980. No, you will never have to go there, but knowing that it exists is kind of a constant bummer.
5. Local politics is ridiculous. Marion Barry is a national punchline, and he's definitely not the worst of DC politics. Congressional control + the landlord lobby makes for a giant clusterfuck.
6. The weather is disgusting.
Re: Joe Stump: Your city sucks (And so does mine)
#124For another city to compare, I've spent the last two summers in Cambridge/Boston: Pros - Decent public transportation - Huge college talent pool to draw from - Startups in the area tend to come out of area colleges - Recruiting from those colleges is probably the primary draw for the big tech company offices in the area - Slightly cheaper rent than SF, with much cheaper options accessible by public transportation - H…
Stay here long enough and you begin to enjoy the cold winters and hot summers... At that point you'll become a super-aggressive driver, focused on making money right away and someone who likes Puritan laws that aren't enforced evenly.
I was recently in Atlanta, and got the distinct impression that my diving was no longer "normal".
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#125I have a love/hate relationship with SF after living here for many many years since 2000. I'm from NYC originally (and finally back) and here are my thoughts after shuttling back and forth for many years. PROS 1. It's probably the safest, relatively big (~ 1M) city that I've ever been to. And I've traveled a lot throughout US and the world. If something bad happens to you in SF, you've really, really should hone your…
What do you mean "grows up?" If you're a 35 year-old single woman looking to not be single any more then you'll probably wear some sexy clothing once in awhile, especially when you're out in public. Also, if you're 35 and single of either gender, there are plenty of reasons to want to live with roommates rather than by yourself. It's much cheaper and more efficient, plus you have friendship, company, sharing of respo…
And these things are big - changing how you dress, and who you live with, and where, will change your life. But looking at these things logically, and predicting outcomes can be hard.
I don't make analytical choices about these questions any more, I've found my gut better than my brain here. And if you want "grow up" not doing so because you might be lonely, or have a hard time making ends meet seems like a poor decision to me. On the other hand if your gut says live with roomies when you're 50, I'd advocate that as well.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
My friends that have gone to CMU all say the same. What are the ideal neighborhoods for someone coming from SF or NYC? I'm thinking with bars and restaurants and a general nightlife-ish, walkable vibe.
The biggest ones: * Oakland is where Pitt is at. It's got tons of college kids running around everywhere, with tons of bars and places to eat. * Shadyside is where all of those kids go after they graduate. It's where I'm sitting right now. More families, but still a bunch of stuff to do. Can be expensive (oh wait, you're coming from NYC/SF, it's dirt cheap, nevermind) if you don't look around. * CMU is located on the…
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#127For another city to compare, I've spent the last two summers in Cambridge/Boston: Pros - Decent public transportation - Huge college talent pool to draw from - Startups in the area tend to come out of area colleges - Recruiting from those colleges is probably the primary draw for the big tech company offices in the area - Slightly cheaper rent than SF, with much cheaper options accessible by public transportation - H…
Public transit in the state is great IF you work/live near a train or subway line. Driving/parking to stations can be time consuming and expensive. Plenty of bus routes inside 128/I-95, though they have to deal with road traffic.
I lived in Boston for a bit without a car near the subway. Super-easy (and cheap!) to get around. It's definitely a very walkable city so long as you have something warm to wear in the winter. Having a car in Boston is expensive mostly due to parking. There is street parking, but good luck getting a spot! :)
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#128I have a love/hate relationship with SF after living here for many many years since 2000. I'm from NYC originally (and finally back) and here are my thoughts after shuttling back and forth for many years. PROS 1. It's probably the safest, relatively big (~ 1M) city that I've ever been to. And I've traveled a lot throughout US and the world. If something bad happens to you in SF, you've really, really should hone your…
YOUR PROS
1. SF does feel very safe to me, although I don't know about the stats. New York feels pretty safe to me too, and so does Seattle...
2. Food in SF is awesome. Yum.
3. I actually think that SF itself is pretty ugly in most parts, though that's just my aesthetics. The surrounding area (Marin, the water, the drive down 280) is undeniably beautiful.
YOUR CONS
1. Agreed, but it comes with the PRO that people are trying to change the world, not just make a buck. The worship of money is precisely what I don't like about New York.
2. This is true. SF is crunchy.
3. Too laid back - or just laid back enough? It's not really a con. For some people, more laid back is good.
4. I'm not sure I agree that this is particularly true. People don't seem any more or less mature in SF than anywhere else I've lived. Which is to say, pretty immature. Could it be the social groups you've been part of in each city?
5. Again, I wouldn't call this a pro or a con exactly...personally, I love San Francisco's weather. I hate the scorching summers and freezing winters of the north east.
6. I know dating is supposed to be hard in SF due to gender imbalance, but in practice I don't know anyone who wants to be dating who can't find someone. That could just be my social circle, but I find my one anecdote more persuasive than one stereotype. People definitely don't dress well in SF (see #3).
7. Is this not an issue keenly felt in Brooklyn as well? I'm not sure San Francisco suffers from this particularly more than any city drawing large numbers of young people. And again, this isn't really a downside. Don't like hipsters? Don't hang out with them.
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#129what about vancouver (canada)?
Size: Vancouver is a "big" city (or at least tries to be), but it's still pretty small. Small in a good way though, the population is ~2m in the metro area but the city itself is ~600k. The downtown core is completely walkable. It's always more of a hassle to hop on the train for 2 stops than to just walk. Clean, can't recall ever seeing poop (human or animal) on the sidewalk. Rent: for downtown living in the more ex…
I find myself driving to Seattle for concerts more often than I would like. Lots of acts come to Vancouver but lots of acts skip Vancouver, usually (from what my music biz contacts tell me) because of two main reasons.
1. It doesn't make sense to add a border crossing to their schedule if it would mean doing just one show in Vancouver before returning back to the states or elsewhere.
2. Some acts have also quit coming to Vancouver because the audience attitude has made shows less enjoyable to perform here. It is sad but doesn't surprise me. I have watched audience enthusiasm progressively fade here, during the last decade especially.
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#130This list was very startup-bro oriented, as are most lists like this. Startups, Computer Science departments, hiking, beer are the axes of importance. What's interesting is what's left out: can I meet good friends? get laid? find a wife? etc.
And please, don't discount the beer. I'd cry if I lived in a city where I couldn't get a good beer.